Windows PIN?

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  1. Posts : 812
    Win10
       #1

    Windows PIN?


    I’m thinking about using a PIN instead of my local account password. First of all, how many here are using the Windows 10 PIN to sign in to your local Windows account?

    Secondly, is this any more or less secure in using a password?
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  2. Posts : 30,193
    Windows 11 Pro x64 Version 23H2
       #2

    On one machine I use a pin, local account


    It is suppose to be more secure as it only works on that specific machine. From what I understand.


    Will be interesting to see what others are doing.
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  3. Posts : 21,421
    19044.1586 - 21H2 Pro x64
       #3

    https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/win...-than-password hopefully this helps. Seems that the PC must have TPM to use a PIN. I don't use PIN, as I'm used to using a password.
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  4. Posts : 1,223
    W10-Pro 22H2
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    I use a PIN, and have been doing so for some time - but I am now using a local account, and don't know if its PIN is the same type of thing as a 'Hello PIN' (the subject of the link above). I don't care if it is more or less secure than a pw, it is easy! If anyone gets their hands on any of my PCs, then AIUI they have got whatever is inside, whether I use a pw or a PIN (I don't use Bitlocker). I am OK with that.
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  5. Posts : 1,067
    windows 10
       #5

    With a local account I use the fingerprint, to use the fingerprint you have to configure a pin code and a password.

    The password is more secure than the pin code because it uses numbers, letters and characters.




    edit: If the pin code can contain letters and characters then it is secure like the password.
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  6. Posts : 15,494
    Windows10
       #6

    itsme1 said:
    With a local account I use the fingerprint, to use the fingerprint you have to configure a pin code and a password.

    The password is more secure than the pin code because it uses numbers, letters and characters.




    edit: If the pin code can contain letters and characters then it is secure like the password.
    This is not correct - a password can be hacked by an online hacker. A pin number cannot be hacked UNLESS hacker has physical access to PC. A person with physical access still has to manually type in up to 9999 combinations which at 1 say every 10 seconds would take 100,000 seconds (just over 1 day). With passwords, a hacker could crack it much more quickly with right hacking techniques.
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  7. Posts : 1,067
    windows 10
       #7

    This is not what it says on the web in general and antivirus companies, avast, Kaspersky ... In steve108's link, microsoft also says that the pin code can be as complex as a password with special characters, uppercase, lowercase and numbers, so pin code only with numbers is not sufficient.
    According to the article with windows hello it seems that the pin code with only numbers and short is sufficient but I believe that you need a computer with tpm and activate it to have an asymmetric key (or pair of keys). I used windows hello with the fingerprint without enabling tpm...
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  8. Posts : 5,330
    Windows 11 Pro 64-bit
       #8

    win10freak said:
    I’m thinking about using a PIN instead of my local account password. First of all, how many here are using the Windows 10 PIN to sign in to your local Windows account?

    Secondly, is this any more or less secure in using a password?
    If you are using user account password to configure PIN then its not secured because when you reset user account password the PIN will also reset.
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  9. Posts : 1,481
    W10 22H2 19045.3031
       #9

    There is an option when changing pin to "include letters and symbols"
    Windows PIN? Attached Images Windows PIN?-cp.jpg 
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  10. Posts : 15,494
    Windows10
       #10

    itsme1 said:
    This is not what it says on the web in general and antivirus companies, avast, Kaspersky ... In steve108's link, microsoft also says that the pin code can be as complex as a password with special characters, uppercase, lowercase and numbers, so pin code only with numbers is not sufficient.
    According to the article with windows hello it seems that the pin code with only numbers and short is sufficient but I believe that you need a computer with tpm and activate it to have an asymmetric key (or pair of keys). I used windows hello with the fingerprint without enabling tpm...
    Nope - you do not understand difference between password and PIN. For sure you can make a PIN more complicated but not much point unless people have direct physical access to PC.


    If users have no physical access to PC, a Pin is more secure.
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