Windows 10: Login screen changed and password changed after verification

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  1. Posts : 164
    Win7 Pro 64-bit\Windows 10 Pro 64-bit dual boot
    Thread Starter
       20 Aug 2015 #11

    What if I renamed the account from Douglas to Doug, which is what it was originally?

    It is not disabled or locked.
    It is a member of the Administrator Group.
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  2. Posts : 164
    Win7 Pro 64-bit\Windows 10 Pro 64-bit dual boot
    Thread Starter
       20 Aug 2015 #12

    Microsoft Support in India is really thick.
    They don't understand a thing.
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  3. Posts : 705
    Windows 10 Pro x64
       20 Aug 2015 #13

    Look, this is solvable but it may take time to get there unless someone else who solved this issue drops by.

    To be honest, it may be quicker to either
    1. restore your old Win7 and perform the upgrade again
    2. do a Win10 Reset
    3. do a full Win10 clean install

    Have you done a backup of your system before starting the upgrade process? If you have, then personally I would do a clean install, restoring any important files, documents, photos, videos music, games etc from the backup as required.
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  4. Posts : 164
    Win7 Pro 64-bit\Windows 10 Pro 64-bit dual boot
    Thread Starter
       20 Aug 2015 #14

    Thanks but I don't want to go that far.
    Yes I did clone my Win7 before upgrading.
    Renaming a Local Account should be a simple thing. Windows should have warned me what it was doing and asked me if I wanted to proceed.
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  5. Posts : 164
    Win7 Pro 64-bit\Windows 10 Pro 64-bit dual boot
    Thread Starter
       20 Aug 2015 #15

    This is intolerable!
    One little setting and I can't reverse it?
    Over an hour and a half in a chat with a Microsoft support person who barely understood what my problem was (from India) and another 45 minutes on hold with Microsoft phone support and nothing!
    The chat person asked ME if there was a setting in the Accounts screen to "Edit" the account name. She asked me!
    So the solution is to wipe it clean and download it again and start all over? I have a 10GB/mo limit. I can't keep downloading this thing.
    I am this close to chucking the whole Windows 10 thing and it was working perfectly since the upgrade. This is really sad.
    You'd think there would be somebody somewhere who could give me a better alternative.
    It's like Microsoft is making you jump off a cliff with all this online stuff without a parachute. I don't care if this new paradigm is the future...I want a choice and I want a way to back out if I make a mistake, especially a small one.

    Rant mode off.
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  6. Posts : 705
    Windows 10 Pro x64
       20 Aug 2015 #16

    Ouch

    Download it once only. Make a usb installation disk (on someone else's pc if poss). Then restore your win7 and upgrade to win10 with the installation media
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  7.    20 Aug 2015 #17

    dlwmacgregor said: View Post
    Why can't I use the same Local Account Name as before?
    Did you try to create a new local account, or convert the existing Microsoft account to a local account? When you start with a local account and then convert to a Microsoft account, like you apparently did, the actual account name on the computer stays the same - only the login name changes.

    I always start with a local account named John because that is what I want the account name to be, including the folder name under Users. Then when I convert to my Microsoft account, the login name changes but the account name stays the same. If I start off with creating my account with my Microsoft account first, it assigns the account name johnh. And that just bugs the heck out of me.

    You can convert the same account back and forth between local and Microsoft and not change the account name. But if you want to create a new account it has to be a unique account name.
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  8. Posts : 164
    Win7 Pro 64-bit\Windows 10 Pro 64-bit dual boot
    Thread Starter
       20 Aug 2015 #18

    WhyMe said: View Post
    Ouch

    Download it once only. Make a usb installation disk (on someone else's pc if poss). Then restore your win7 and upgrade to win10 with the installation media
    I appreciate the suggestion but it's a little late for that. I already downloaded it twice. Once on the 28th during the automatic download which failed after 3GB and second try using the Media Creation Tool, choosing upgrade instead of create media. The 2 downloads cost me an extra $70 on my monthly bill.
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  9. Posts : 164
    Win7 Pro 64-bit\Windows 10 Pro 64-bit dual boot
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       20 Aug 2015 #19

    NavyLCDR said: View Post
    Did you try to create a new local account, or convert the existing Microsoft account to a local account? When you start with a local account and then convert to a Microsoft account, like you apparently did, the actual account name on the computer stays the same - only the login name changes.

    I always start with a local account named John because that is what I want the account name to be, including the folder name under Users. Then when I convert to my Microsoft account, the login name changes but the account name stays the same. If I start off with creating my account with my Microsoft account first, it assigns the account name johnh. And that just bugs the heck out of me.

    You can convert the same account back and forth between local and Microsoft and not change the account name. But if you want to create a new account it has to be a unique account name.
    I did not see a place to "convert" the account, only "use a local account". If it is true that you can go back and forth between account types then that's fine. Why didn't the Microsoft support person know that?

    The login screen after I changed to a Microsoft account had the same name as before but also displayed my Hotmail account and used that password instead of the local account password (which of course was the same as my Win7 password from which I upgraded). Surprised the hell out of me because I had no idea it was doing that when it "verified" my account. If you ask me, that is uber sneaky of them.

    By the way, when you go back and forth between a Microsoft account and a local account, does the Users folder reflect that or stay the same because, like you said, the account name doesn't change?
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  10.    20 Aug 2015 #20

    OK, So I just tried it. Yes, the option is "Sign in with a local account instead". I went back and forth twice. First time I used my old username, second time I used a new user name. The account stayed the same except for what was displayed on the login screen. The folder under Users on the hard drive stayed the same.
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