Completely reset hidden Administrator account?

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  1. Posts : 41
    Windows 10
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    Completely reset hidden Administrator account?


    Hi, not sure if anyone can help - this is more of an OCD type request.

    I recently needed to activate the hidden Administrator account and on first run it asked me to set a password and then ran the OOBE.

    I found a page on EightForums where Brink explained how to reset the OOBE but this doesn't completely reset everything and the account retains its password. I know that the password can be deleted and the account can be set to ask for a new password when next logged in, but I am looking for a way (if possible) to completely reset it so that the next time I use it it will follow the same steps as the first time, as though I had never used it.
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  3. Posts : 41
    Windows 10
    Thread Starter
       #3

    Many thanks for the reply, Unfortunately the link there is the one I had already tried and it only resets the oobe/profile, not the whole account.
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  4. Posts : 11,391
    Windows 10 Home x64 Version 21H2 Build 19044.1706
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    babyblue said:
    I recently needed to activate the hidden Administrator account and on first run it asked me to set a password ...
    It should not do that.
    1 What else has been done to that account in the past?
    2 Is its username still "Administrator" as listed in the response to the command net user
    3 If its username is still "Administrator", please post the response to the command net user Administrator

    babyblue said:
    ... then ran the OOBE.
    OOBE refers to the first boot of a newly-installed Windows 10.
    4 Did you just mean that it went through setting up the account as though it had never been logged into before [or as though its C:\Users\Administrator folder had been deleted after its last login]?

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  5. Posts : 41
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    Hi Denis, many thanks for your reply.

    Try3 said:
    It should not do that.
    1 What else has been done to that account in the past?
    It was the first time I used the account since initial Windows 10 install, it hadn't ever been activated so I activated it using "net user administrator /active:yes". I assumed that because it had never been used and had no initial password that that was why it was asking me to set one (the dialog said something similar but I didn't think to take a screenshot at the time).

    2 Is its username still "Administrator" as listed in the response to the command net user
    Yes

    3 If its username is still "Administrator", please post the response to the command net user Administrator
    Code:
    User name                    Administrator
    Full Name
    Comment                      Built-in account for administering the computer/domain
    User's comment
    Country/region code          000 (System Default)
    Account active               No
    Account expires              Never
    
    Password last set            15/03/2021 03:54:16
    Password expires             26/04/2021 03:54:16
    Password changeable          15/03/2021 03:54:16
    Password required            Yes
    User may change password     Yes
    
    Workstations allowed         All
    Logon script
    User profile
    Home directory
    Last logon                   13/03/2021 12:58:43
    
    Logon hours allowed          All
    
    Local Group Memberships      *Administrators       *Ssh Users
    Global Group memberships     *None
    Note - if "Password expires" is unusual, it's because I was adjusting that to see if it brought up the same initial experience. It didn't.

    OOBE refers to the first boot of a newly-installed Windows 10.
    I saw the user setup referred to as OOBE once before, probably incorrectly and out of context so have probably been using it wrongly myself ever since lol.

    4 Did you just mean that it went through setting up the account as though it had never been logged into before [or as though its C:\Users\Administrator folder had been deleted after its last login]?
    Yes, that's what I meant.
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  6. Posts : 72
    Win 10 Pro 19043.1237 (X64) (21H1)
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    babyblue said:
    this is more of an OCD type request
    I suggest you have that looked at
    From my experience, the results achieved by following @Brink or @FreeBooter lead are the closet to remedying OCD as one can expect ! Trust me, as I've aged, my OCD woes have receded !
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  7. Posts : 11,391
    Windows 10 Home x64 Version 21H2 Build 19044.1706
       #7

    Have you used any utilities or procedures to force use of passwords?
    Example only - Force Local Account to Change Password at Next Sign-in - TenForumsTutorials




    babyblue said:
    Code:
    Local Group Memberships      *Administrators       *Ssh Users
    I know nothing about ssh so I cannot advise you.

    If it had not been for the ssh entry, I would have suggested these actions. You will be as close as possible to a state of never having altered the Built-In Admin.
    1 Making spare local password-protected admin accounts of your own so you never need the built-in one. Create two spare local, password-protected Admin accounts [post #25] - TenForums
    2 Removing the built-in admin's password [strictly-speaking, I should say - overwriting its password with a blank one]
    3 Disabling the built-in admin
    4 Deleting the folder C:\Users\Administrator

    Denis
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  8. Posts : 41
    Windows 10
    Thread Starter
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    BubbaW said:
    I suggest you have that looked at
    From my experience, the results achieved by following @Brink or @FreeBooter lead are the closet to remedying OCD as one can expect ! Trust me, as I've aged, my OCD woes have receded !
    Lol, you're probably right.

    Try3 said:
    Have you used any utilities or procedures to force use of passwords?
    Example only - Force Local Account to Change Password at Next Sign-in - TenForumsTutorials
    Yes I had tried Brink's tutorial to see if it brought up the same initial experience. Unfortunately it didn't.

    I know nothing about ssh so I cannot advise you.
    I installed ssh a while back to be able to ssh from linux machine on the same network. I disabled it when done, the "ssh users" group must have remained. This was still long before activating the Administrator account though.

    close as possible to a state of never having altered the Built-In Admin
    Close as possible is actually fairly easy to achieve, I was just looking for a way to undo the changes that took place when I first activated the Administrator account. I tried a system restore - but that didn't work, probably as it doesn't touch user data.
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  9. Posts : 11,391
    Windows 10 Home x64 Version 21H2 Build 19044.1706
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    babyblue said:
    I was just looking for a way to undo the changes that took place when I first activated the Administrator account.
    What changes do you want to undo? If you are specific then @FreeBooter might know of a method [I'm out of ideas, I am afraid].

    Denis
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  10. Posts : 41
    Windows 10
    Thread Starter
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    Try3 said:
    What changes do you want to undo?
    It's a pity I didn't make a note or screenshot the first dialog after logging into the Administrator account, but it was something about being a first-time login and wanting me to set a password.

    If it isn't possible to reset it back to that, then I guess an alternative would be for the account to be secure and still accessible (even if it needs to be enabled first), but not have a password (that I will almost certainly forget). The administrator account is currently disabled and I have removed the Administrator folder + edited the registry according to Brink's tutorial linked above.
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