Completely reset hidden Administrator account?

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  1. Posts : 11,635
    Windows 10 Home x64 Version 21H2 Build 19044.1776
       #11

    babyblue said:
    ... it was something about being a first-time login and wanting me to set a password.
    That's the bit that I still do not understand.

    babyblue said:
    … not have a password (that I will almost certainly forget).
    Change account password - TenForumsTutorials - change it to a blank password

    I always write passwords down somewhere secure yet readily available. Writing down passwords is as effective as & is a lot cheaper than making 'Password reset disks' [which are only for local accounts anyway]. I always write user account passwords down on a piece of paper that I keep inside one of those dog nametag cylinder things attached to my main keyring -
    Here's a [UK] link for some example ID tags https://www.amazon.co.uk/Pet-Barrel-.../dp/B00DEB1JVQ There are lots of available choices but I bought ones that, like these, have a slot in the bottom for me to swing off so I can be confident they won't come apart accidentally while I'm out & about.

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  2. Posts : 41
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       #12

    Try3 said:
    That's the bit that I still do not understand.
    After the feedback, I'm beginning to not understand this either. I know I didn't imagine it though.

    If the Administrator account is disabled with a blank password does that make it secure?

    Many thanks for the password storage ideas, they look interesting :)
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  3. Posts : 11,635
    Windows 10 Home x64 Version 21H2 Build 19044.1776
       #13

    babyblue said:
    If the Administrator account is disabled with a blank password does that make it secure?
    Yes.

    Only an Admin account can issue the instruction to enable it so it is secure once it is disabled.

    Denis
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  4. Posts : 11,635
    Windows 10 Home x64 Version 21H2 Build 19044.1776
       #14

    I have just used a computer on which I know that I had never enabled the Built-In Admin.
    - I enabled it using net user Administrator /active:yes
    - I logged into it.
    - There was no demand for a password to be set up.

    [I then disabled it using net user Administrator /active:no and deleted its C:\Users\Administrator folder]

    Denis
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  5. Posts : 1,244
    Windows 10 Pro x64 21H2 (Build: 19044.1415)
       #15

    Hello, I don't know the answer to your problem but following quotes and links may help to troubleshoot your issue, I marked relevant parts in bold:
    Note

    It is not necessary to explicitly enable the built-in Administrator account or specify an autologon of the account using an answer file in order to run commands in the auditSystem and auditUser passes. Doing so can prevent the image or device from entering the Out-Of-Box Experience (OOBE) successfully. When booting into Audit Mode, the built-in Administrator account is automatically enabled, is used to run scripts during auditUser pass by default, and is used to sign in automatically.
    https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/win...etup-autologon

    When you run the sysprep /generalize command, the next time that the computer starts, the built-in Administrator account will be disabled.
    When you run the sysprep /generalize command on Windows Server 2012 and Windows Server 2008 R2, the Sysprep tool resets the built-in Administrator account password. The Sysprep tool only clears the built-in Administrator account’s password for server editions, not for client editions. The next time that the computer starts, Setup displays a prompt for a password.
    For new installations, after the end user creates a user account in OOBE, the built-in Administrator account is disabled.

    For upgrade installations, the built-in Administrator account remains enabled when there is no other active local administrator on the computer, and when the computer is not joined to a domain.
    https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/pre...5104(v=win.10)

    In any case Administrator account is treated differently than regular local accounts during OOBE and auditSystem stage, at least following link seems to imply so:
    https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/win...p-useraccounts

    If you find no solution to your problem, last resort could be creating an answer file:
    https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/win...an-answer-file
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  6. Posts : 25,070
    10 Home x64 (21H2) (10 Pro on 2nd pc)
       #16

    babyblue said:
    It's a pity I didn't make a note or screenshot the first dialog after logging into the Administrator account, but it was something about being a first-time login and wanting me to set a password....
    Try3 said:
    That's the bit that I still do not understand....
    It may not have been for a 'first time login', rather it may have been 'password expired'. Does this look familiar?




    While by default local account passwords should never expire, I have had one or two machines where an expiry time was enabled for some unexplained reason and my local account with no password was asked to reset its password. The Administrator is just another local account in this respect. if password expiry was enabled it would likely be asked to set a new password when first signing in. That could have been the case here. If so, turn off password expiry.

    Enable or Disable Password Expiration for Local Accounts in Windows 10
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  7. Posts : 11,635
    Windows 10 Home x64 Version 21H2 Build 19044.1776
       #17

    babyblue said:
    Many thanks for the password storage ideas, they look interesting :)
    And do note that I was not recommending that particular one.
    - I used that link because its photos showed the slot on its bottom that I wanted to add a comment about.
    - I would have thought there'd be one going for 50p or less somewhere or other.

    Denis
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  8. Posts : 41
    Windows 10
    Thread Starter
       #18

    Try3 said:
    Only an Admin account can issue the instruction to enable it so it is secure once it is disabled.Denis
    I guess this is what I really needed to know, I'll probably leave the account without a password but disabled (till I perhaps need it again).

    Try3 said:
    There was no demand for a password to be set up.
    Did it just let you in without a password (in other words the default is no password and it is happy to stay that way)?

    zebal said:
    The Sysprep tool only clears the built-in Administrator account’s password for server editions, not for client editions. The next time that the computer starts, Setup displays a prompt for a password.
    This looks perhaps similar although I am not using a server edition. My installation was initially a clean install, so I hadn't used audit mode or sysprep. I'm a bit confused as to how an answer file could help, I'm not familiar with using them.

    Bree said:
    It may not have been for a 'first time login', rather it may have been 'password expired'. Does this look familiar?
    I did try setting an expiry on the password and then got that screen, but unfortunately it wasn't the same as the initial one I saw.


    Many thanks for everyone's help, it looks like whatever state my Administrator account was in, it wasn't default. As long as it is now secure even with no password I'm happy to leave it as that. It is a mystery though why I was getting a screen noone else has seen, I blame the LHC lol.
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  9. Posts : 11,635
    Windows 10 Home x64 Version 21H2 Build 19044.1776
       #19

    babyblue said:
    Did it just let you in without a password (in other words the default is no password and it is happy to stay that way)?
    Yes. It let me in without a password and is happy to stay that way.

    Denis
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