Removing password issues


  1. Posts : 120
    Win 10 Pro 64 bit
       #1

    Removing password issues


    I'm working on a friend's desktop trying to get to the bottom of an issue with sleep mode. I've got her to remove her PIN for convenience. After she completed this step and on reboot she was prompted for her old password This was really unexpected and we were fortunate that she still remembered her old password, what if she hadn't?

    Anyways on reboot I'm now able to get straight in with no password. But if I wake the computer from sleep/hibernate we are then prompted with another password screen. This cannot surely be by design and is a bug as it makes no sense whatsoever to have a feature like this.

    The other irksome behaviour is if we wake the computer and I get the user to once again type in her password we are then presented with a screen which forces us to set a PIN with no option to skip
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  2. Posts : 5,452
    Windows 11 Home
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    PIN replaces a password for a convenience. By removing PIN, it reverts back to a password.
    If she uses MS account, she can not remove the password, she can only switch to a local acc.

    Switch to Local Account in Windows 10

    Gusgf said:
    But if I wake the computer from sleep/hibernate we are then prompted with another password screen. This cannot surely be by design and is a bug as it makes no sense whatsoever to have a feature like this.
    That is a security feature to prevent unauthorized users from accessing PC, if the user forgets to turn off a computer. I use something similar. I do not think, you can disable it either, when using MS account.

    Turn On or Off Require Sign-in on Wakeup in Windows 10
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  3. Posts : 120
    Win 10 Pro 64 bit
    Thread Starter
       #3

    TairikuOkami said:
    PIN replaces a password for a convenience. By removing PIN, it reverts back to a password.
    If she uses MS account, she can not remove the password, she can only switch to a local acc.

    Switch to Local Account in Windows 10


    That is a security feature to prevent unauthorized users from accessing PC, if the user forgets to turn off a computer. I use something similar. I do not think, you can disable it either, when using MS account.

    Turn On or Off Require Sign-in on Wakeup in Windows 10
    Thank you for the information. So obviously she is using a MS Act to authenticate. But you then didn't answer my other question.




    Gusgf said:
    But if I wake the computer from sleep/hibernate we are then prompted with another password screen. This cannot surely be by design and is a bug as it makes no sense whatsoever to have a feature like this.


    TairikuOkami said:
    That is a security feature to prevent unauthorized users from accessing PC, if the user forgets to turn off a computer. I use something similar. I do not think, you can disable it either, when using MS account.



    How on earth can that be a security feature if I can access her account by simply rebooting? Did you not see what I orignally said that if I reboot I can get into the account with no password.

    Last edited by Gusgf; 21 Feb 2021 at 17:04.
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  4. Posts : 1,223
    W10-Pro 22H2
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    Gusgf said:
    TairikuOkami said:
    That is a security feature to prevent unauthorized users from accessing PC, if the user forgets to turn off a computer. I use something similar. I do not think, you can disable it either, when using MS account. <link>

    How on earth can that be a security feature if I can access her account by simply rebooting? Did you not see what I orignally said that if I reboot I can get into the account with no password.
    Did you follow his link - it tells you how to turn of the pw prompt on waking. His comment about 'not disabling' is a bit obscure - I think he is referring to removing the pw entirely.
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  5. Posts : 120
    Win 10 Pro 64 bit
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    mngerhold said:
    Did you follow his link - it tells you how to turn of the pw prompt on waking. His comment about 'not disabling' is a bit obscure - I think he is referring to removing the pw entirely.
    I did now

    But regardless the situation is ridiculous.

    Scenario: If you wake me I'll ask you for a password. If you reboot I won't. Hence the whole reason for a password being active is negated!!

    You'd think someone at microsoft would see this and override the futility of the password.
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  6. Posts : 1,621
    Windows 10 Home
       #6

    If push comes to shove in the future, many computer fixit places for their customers use, from The 'Net, PC Unlocker and Hiren's Boot.
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  7. Posts : 120
    Win 10 Pro 64 bit
    Thread Starter
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    RolandJS said:
    If push comes to shove in the future, many computer fixit places for their customers use, from The 'Net, PC Unlocker and Hiren's Boot.
    So effectively with this software your PC account admin or not can be hacked and broken into. I've never had to do this but I would have thought there are plenty of instructional videos on YT already telling you how to do this without having to fork out $30.

    Hirens I used briefly before but it looks a pretty handy tool to have on hand. Thanks for reminding me about it
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  8. Posts : 1,621
    Windows 10 Home
       #8

    I thought computer fixits download PC Unlocker for free, I guess I am incorrect.
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  9. Posts : 120
    Win 10 Pro 64 bit
    Thread Starter
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    Doesn't look like it is. There may be a very cut down trial version.
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