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  1. Posts : 103
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    make computer Fully Admin


    question was still never answered with these many non-answer comments

    now have this problem -> Q & A: need 'admin permission' when already 'admin' ....



    there's something call 'admin' on a computer

    making a 'user' an 'admin' does not make it fully admin - How to Change Administrator on Windows 10 : HelloTech How

    there's certain files you cant access

    and some software need to be open as 'admin' even tho you are already admin

    so this 'admin' wording by microsoft is false + unhelpful cos it's not really fully admin

    steps to make computer fully admin?

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    question was still never answered with these many non-answer comments

    now have this problem -> Q & A: need 'admin permission' when already 'admin' ....
    Last edited by helpfixcomputer; 11 Dec 2020 at 20:43.
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  2. Posts : 16,950
    Windows 10 Home x64 Version 22H2 Build 19045.4170
       #2

    Windows was designed to run the way you have experienced -
    1 An Admin user account is initially logged in with standard user account status
    2 That Admin prompt you see is the method used to allow you to invoke your Admin status for a specific task [and only for that task] i.e to run it 'as Admin'.
    So your Admin user account is 'fully Admin' in the sense intended by Windows.

    To change the situation as you asked, you would need to 'take ownership' of every folder, file & Registry key and then add 'Full control' 'Permissions' to your own user account.
    - I don't think that anybody has investigated all the side-effects of doing this.
    - Windows updates would revert 'ownership' and 'permissions' to their original states for many folders, files & Registry keys so you would have to repeat the work after every update.

    Denis
    Last edited by Try3; 16 Nov 2020 at 15:20.
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  3. Posts : 13,301
    Windows 10 Pro (x64) 21H2 19044.1526
       #3

    Try3 said:
    Windows was designed to run the way you have experienced -
    1 An Admin user account is initially logged in with standard user account status
    2 That Admin prompt you see is the method used to allow you to invoke your Admin status for a specific task [and only for that task] i.e to run it 'as Admin'.
    So your Admin user account is 'fully Admin' in the sense intended by Windows.

    To change the situation as you asked, you would need to 'take ownership' of every folder, file & Registry key and then add 'Full control' 'Permissions' to your own user account.
    - I don't think that anybody has investigated the side-effects of doing this.
    - Windows updates would revert 'ownership' and 'permissions' to their original states for many folders, files & Registry keys so you would have to repeat the work after every update.

    Denis

    I would recommend a very good image of the Drive if you are going to make such attempt
    to take ownership of it. It is highly possible that windows will not run in such a way.
    and even if it worked (and windows actually booted) you will lose all system file checking as well .
    More then likely Windows Defender will not work nor many antiviral programs as the permissions
    might identify the changed files as an attack.
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  4. Posts : 16,950
    Windows 10 Home x64 Version 22H2 Build 19045.4170
       #4

    I agree with Thomas except that I would not say

    thomaseg1 said:
    I would recommend a very good image of the Drive if you are going to make such attempt to take ownership of it.
    Instead, I would go further by saying

    Try3 said:
    Do not "make such attempt to take ownership of it."
    Denis
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  5. Posts : 13,301
    Windows 10 Pro (x64) 21H2 19044.1526
       #5

    Try3 said:
    I agree with Thomas except that I would not say



    Instead, I would go further by saying
    Do not "make such attempt to take ownership of it."



    Denis

    Last edited by thomaseg1; 16 Nov 2020 at 16:33.
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  6. Posts : 8,111
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    The main system files are protected so we can't have massive virus/malware that killed 1,0000 of pc infected. Mess with and you are at risk and may end up with a dead system
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  7. Posts : 18,432
    Windows 11 Pro
       #7

    Just turn off UAC. That will get you a long way towards what you desire:
    Enable or Disable User Account Control (UAC) in Windows
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  8. Posts : 56,831
    Multi-boot Windows 10/11 - RTM, RP, Beta, and Insider
       #8

    helpfixcomputer said:
    there's something call 'admin' on a computer

    making a 'user' an 'admin' does not make it fully admin - How to Change Administrator on Windows 10 : HelloTech How

    there's certain files you cant access

    and some software need to be open as 'admin' even tho you are already admin

    so this 'admin' wording by microsoft is false + unhelpful cos it's not really fully admin

    steps to make computer fully admin?

    1.
    2.
    3.
    It will be helpful to you to understand how the term Administrator is defined and applied to the User's system. All users who are "Administrators", that is have Administrator Privileges, are part of the system's Administrator Group. That is different than signing on with the hidden system user name Administrator. Signed on to the system as user Administrator is as close to having 100% total control over every file and process as you can get. This is a much higher privilege level than a user with Administrator privileges. The UAC level further controls warnings and access to high level files, for users in all groups, including Administrators Group. Turning UAC completely off (not recommended) is the highest level for Admin Group.

    So even when users say "I'm the only one on the system", all the above rules apply.
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  9. Posts : 16,950
    Windows 10 Home x64 Version 22H2 Build 19045.4170
       #9

    I refrained from mentioning UAC because it is a very small step towards what you want and will not satisfy your expressed requirements.

    Like your full requirements, turning off UAC will enable an attacker to infiltrate all areas of your computer without you seeing anything at all.
    - You should never conduct any confidential business on a computer with UAC turned off because it might already have been compromised.
    - Anybody connecting to my network with UAC turned off would get their computer inserted into their fundaments.

    Denis
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  10. Posts : 16,950
    Windows 10 Home x64 Version 22H2 Build 19045.4170
       #10

    f14tomcat said:
    This is a much higher privilege level the a user with Administrator privileges.
    TC,

    I'm sorry but that is incorrect.

    The Built-in Admin has no more access than any other Admin albeit with UAC turned off by default. And the Built-in Admin cannot run several Windows components such as much of Settings & all Apps.***

    Denis


    *** I deleted those words because they have not applied since Version 1709
    Last edited by Try3; 21 Nov 2020 at 13:02.
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