are my user accounts messed up?

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  1. Posts : 9
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       #1

    are my user accounts messed up?


    I'm not sure if I'm worrying for nothing, but here goes...
    I'm running Win10 ver 1909 (build 18363-959) on a Toshiba Satellite laptop.

    I was logged into my "steve" account - which is an admin account.
    I saved a picture from Ifranview64 to the Documents folder.
    Going online to post the picture, it was NOT there!
    After a lot of poking around, I found that it was buried under "admin/documents"

    Now here's where it gets interesting:
    in edge, just opening the "documents" folder doesn't show this file. I have to navigate to users/admin/documents to find the file. I also notice that the two documents folders have entirely different files in them.

    I also don't have a defined user "admin" on my machine, and it doesn't show up as an option to log into.
    By the same token, edge does NOT show my "steve" account as a user. (no folder with that name)

    What's going on here? is this normal Microsoft weirdness? or should I start panicking?

    A couple more tidbits of info: I only have two user accounts on my machine - my "steve" account, which has admin privileges and my "User" account which is a local account with no password.
    Also - in the past, I had added and deleted a couple user accounts, but that seemed to go just fine.
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  2. Posts : 35,524
    Win 10 Pro (21H2) (2nd PC is 21H2)
       #2

    Hi, have you ever used the Location tab in the Properties dialogue to relocate Documents?

    If you copy and paste
    %userprofile%\Documents

    does it open the appropriate folder?

    And if you run this from a Powershell command prompt:
    powershell "(new-object -COM Shell.Application).Namespace(0x05).Self.Path"

    what path is displayed?
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  3. Posts : 12,481
    Win10 Version 21H2 Pro and Home, Win11 Pro
       #3

    SteveBill said:
    I also don't have a defined user "admin" on my machine, and it doesn't show up as an option to log into.
    Actually there is an Administrator account on a Windows computer, by default it is hidden from access. It can allow doing a few more things than a User with Administrative Rights but not recommended to keep it active.
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  4. Posts : 8,696
    Mac OS Catalina
       #4

    Default user can be named User or Admin depending on what was used for setup by the OEM. It does not mean that you have a Rooted account.
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  5. Posts : 11,639
    Windows 10 Home x64 Version 21H2 Build 19044.1776
       #5

    Steve,

    1 Please would you confirm the full path that 'in edge, just opening the "documents" folder doesn't show this file' actually takes you to.
    - I realise that it is not the path you have already referred to 'C:\users/admin/documents'

    2 Do you run Ifranview64 as Admin or can you just open it without any permission being demanded? [I have not used Ifranview for over a decade and cannot remember]

    3 Please enter this in a command window or powershell window while you are logged in to your "Steve" account
    Code:
    whoami
    - The response will be in the form ComputerName\UserName
    - Does it identify you as Steve?

    4 Please enter this in a command window or powershell window while you are logged in to your "Steve" account
    Code:
    net user
    - The response will name each user account
    - It may also name a few irrelevant ones [for your current purpose] such as Administrator, DefaultAccount, Guest, WDAGUtilityAccount
    - Are any accounts you expected not shown?
    - Are any unexpected accounts shown?

    5 The additional account you mentioned is an open goal for a hacker
    my "User" account which is a local account with no password
    Denis
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  6. Posts : 9
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    Thread Starter
       #6

    following up on questions:


    dalchina,
    to my knowledge, I haven't ever relocated Documents.

    the %userprofile%\documents yields "T1I0716500H (C:) > Users >Admin>Documents
    The only thing in that directory at the moment is a .reg file

    The powershell command yields "C:\Users\Admin\OneDrive\Documents
    (how OneDrive got involved, I'll never know...)

    Try3,

    My BAD!!! I should have said explorer, not Edge (brain fart!)
    That said - clicking on "documents" yields: "This PC > documents

    whoami gives me: "Laptop-0d12jh21\admin

    net user gives me:

    admin administrator DefaultAccount
    Guest SBuser WDAGUtilityAccount

    I don't see my "Steve" account listed - but when I go to change users, that's what shows.


    And yes - I know the risks of an unlocked account, but I have a spouse who won't or can't learn passwords.
    <sigh>
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  7. Posts : 35,524
    Win 10 Pro (21H2) (2nd PC is 21H2)
       #7

    Hi, could you open file explorer at C:\Users and post a screenshot of the folders you see there thus?
    are my user accounts messed up?-screenshot-copy1.png
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  8. Posts : 11,639
    Windows 10 Home x64 Version 21H2 Build 19044.1776
       #8

    Steve,

    Your username on your computer is admin NOT Steve

    Please would you post a screenshot to explain what you meant by
    when I go to change users, that's what shows
    - You mean the account item in the Start menu, perhaps?

    I think 'admin' started life as a local account.
    - Have you since converted it to an MSAccount-linked user account? - You can see which type it is at Settings, Accounts, Your info.
    - Have you declared your full name online in your account as 'Steve'?
    - That is all I can think of to explain the name difference.

    And your Missus is 'SBUser'?

    When you click on ThisPC\Documents, it should take you to a default location of C:\Users\admin\Documents
    - ThisPC\Documents is not actually a folder itself even though it looks like one. It is a special type of shortcut.
    - Please right-click on a file in the folder that ThisPC\Documents takes you to, select Properties then tell us what the [General tab] Location entry is.
    - Then go to that other folder you referred to in "I also notice that the two documents folders have entirely different files in them", right-click on a file in that folder, select Properties then tell us what the [General tab] Location entry is.

    Denis
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  9. Posts : 9
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    Thread Starter
       #9

    Dalchina,
    Try3 (Denis),

    Here are screen shots of the things you requested.
    It's beginning to look like OneDrive somehow got involved - I don't know how, since I've never deliberately chosen to use it.
    1. Docs folder 2. drill down to admin/docs 3. user info. 4. users folder

    I couldn't capture the "change user" screen, but it gives me the options of logging in as "SBuser" or "Steve Billington"
    the SBuser account is what wife and I both use for most activities. I leave the "steve" admin account for only a few things where admin privileges are needed.

    I just want to say thanks to you guys for taking the time to help me chase this thing... especially since I'm still not even sure that anything is really wrong, beyond my understanding of what's up.
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    Last edited by Brink; 23 Jul 2020 at 09:11. Reason: removed image showing your email address
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  10. Posts : 1,495
    Win10 Pro
       #10

    SteveBill said:
    Dalchina,
    Try3 (Denis),

    Here are screen shots of the things you requested.
    It's beginning to look like OneDrive somehow got involved - I don't know how, since I've never deliberately chosen to use it.
    1. Docs folder 2. drill down to admin/docs 3. user info. 4. users folder

    I couldn't capture the "change user" screen, but it gives me the options of logging in as "SBuser" or "Steve Billington"
    the SBuser account is what wife and I both use for most activities. I leave the "steve" admin account for only a few things where admin privileges are needed.

    I just want to say thanks to you guys for taking the time to help me chase this thing... especially since I'm still not even sure that anything is really wrong, beyond my understanding of what's up.
    You shouldn’t post your email address
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