Win10 Welcome now needs password ?


  1. Dave xxx
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    Win10 Welcome now needs password ?


    My master PC was upgraded to Win 10 Pro (bona fide) such that it would launch the Welcome screen at start-up, without a password, and without logging into a Microsoft account.

    However, after trying to rectify the Xbox app, which involved my accessing my Microsoft account for another system (Dell laptop), Windows at start-up now seeks a password at the welcome stage, which I haven't got, nor do I want.

    Windows now wants wants to verify my identity, by sending a security code.

    I simply wish to start-up the PC and use it without passwords/security codes/logging in to Microsoft, etc., like I have done for the past 6 months or so. I currently cannot access Outlook 2016 to process mail (only via web-mail).

    Any suggestions for a remedy would be much appreciated.
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  3. dalchina
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    Win 10 Pro (22H2) (2nd PC is 22H2)
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    Hi, there's this
    Sign in User Account Automatically at Windows 10 Startup
    - but a glance seems to indicate you need to know the password to set it up so no login is needed.

    Note that there are other circumstances in which you need a password- for example, setting up certain types of scheduled tasks, or booting to a command prompt.

    There is also this:
    Reset Password of User Account in Windows 10

    It is important to know the password even if you configure things so you are logged in automatically.

    Feel free to search the tutorial section (above) or linear list:
    Windows 10 Tutorial Index

    You will find linked tutorials listed below the main text.
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  4. Dave xxx
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    Many thanks for the prompt response

    I've managed to obtain a reset code, and I can now see that my Microsoft account now has 2 systems registered (initially my Laptop, and now the Master PC), and via a new password, which I can live with.

    I'll explore the simplified start-up access option and update this thread shortly.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Sorted - I'm now back to normal at Windows start-up.
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  6. dalchina
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    although 2004 now allows use of a PIN even for Safe Mode, there are, as I said, still occasions when a password is needed. Best keep it safe!
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  7. AddRAM
    Posts : 4,594
    Windows 10 Pro
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    If you do everything it asks properly, you will not need a windows password.

    When it asks you to put in your windows password, don`t put in anything.

    You should only have a Microsoft password.

    Believe me I would hate to have a windows password.

    And verifying your account is no big deal.
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  8. dalchina
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    Try creating a scheduled task to run as admin; try booting to a command prompt. As I said, there will be occasions when you cannot evade a password prompt.
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  9. Dave xxx
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    Sorry, this is still unresolved.

    After several restarts, not requiring password access, as desired (and a successful password change), a reboot generated a new screen "Your account requires a Windows Hello pin". So, I created one, and it allowed Windows access.

    I then disabled the Pin requirement in Windows settings.

    Full shutdown/restart generated an opening screen with "We are unable to connect right now. Please check network and try again later" - I have never seen this message before. Entering my password is needed to gain Windows access.

    The screen also displays two users with the same name (bottom left hand corner) - there is only user folder (plus admin).

    Windows 10 seems to be confused regarding start-up passwords, when I don't want password access enabled (or a Pin).

    - - - Updated - - -

    Win10 Pro startup screen shots attached, in sequence, top to bottom, plus user details.

    Win10 Welcome now needs password ?-win10prostartup.jpg
    Last edited by Dave xxx; 05 Jul 2020 at 07:46.
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  10. dalchina
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    Regarding your first:
    How to Fix 'We Are Unable to Connect Right Now' on Windows 10 Login - MajorGeeks

    I suggest your initial aim should be to log in with user name and password, no complications, no added extras.

    Can you boot to Safe Mode successfully?

    Regarding duplicates:
    Fix: Duplicate User Names on Windows 10 Login Screen | Password Recovery

    Remove any auto login, PIN, Hello etc for now.
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  12. Dave xxx
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    Many thanks ...

    [1] How to Fix 'We Are Unable to Connect Right Now' on Windows 10 Login - MajorGeeks

    - Tried this, seems to have disabled the password login (good !)

    [2] Can you boot to Safe Mode successfully?

    - Yes

    Will explore the duplicated users shortly.

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    [3] Fix: Duplicate User Names on Windows 10 Login Screen | Password Recovery

    Have perused, and will save details should it occur again.
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