Windows 10 Permissions Issues

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  1. Posts : 16,946
    Windows 10 Home x64 Version 22H2 Build 19045.4170
       #11

    About the initial status of 'Admin' user accounts


    I would like to add one comment that I believe will be useful.

    About "I thought the fact that "Administrators" were listed in the permissions meant that all Admins had access, but apparently not."

    When you log on using an account that has "Admin" status, you are logging on using only its underlying "Standard" authority.
    - In other words, Windows treats Admin users as Standard users until it is told otherwise.
    - That's how Windows works.
    - You have to deliberately invoke your Admin status to achieve anything that needs it and that Admin status lasts only for the job that you have invoked it for.
    - That's why you will see that Admin challenge when doing certain jobs -
    Windows 10 Permissions Issues-admin-consentui.png

    In case this is confusing, I can put it another way.
    - When you log in using your Admin account, you are only a potential Admin.
    - You are not an Admin until you deliberately invoke your Admin status and that Admin status lasts only for the job that you have invoked it for.

    All this is why following Bree's advice about giving a named account access to that folder was the correct thing to do for your 'potential Admin' account to be able to write to that folder.
    - Before this change, your Administrators only had access after they had invoked their status.

    If I have merely confused you further then please say so.

    Denis
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  2. Posts : 56,825
    Multi-boot Windows 10/11 - RTM, RP, Beta, and Insider
       #12

    Like having a Security Pass to get into a building, but you still have to show it to the Guard at the door.
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  3. Posts : 3
    Windows 10 Professional x64
       #13

    glastolover said:

    I still can't save into this folder. I get this message:

    Attachment 229376

    Any idea why I am getting that message when logged into Windows as this MS account with admin rights?!

    To clarify, I made sure the ownership change applied to the top folder and all subfolders. So when logged in as owning admin, any application really should have permissions needed to save in here, right?!


    Sorry I just had to comment on this long since solved post!

    Can't you guys see the irony in this post? (see image attachment above) He was simply trying to make a mallet to smash his PC to bits from being completely fet up with it, but apparently Windows had other ideas to stop him! LOL
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  4. Posts : 50
    win 10 pro
       #14

    i am also having the same problem. details are coming.

    - - - Updated - - -

    the problem started with the video folder. one was able to play all videos in this folder . but then one day, it asked for permission to open it. Searching the web gave the following commands,
    takeown /F D:\* /A /R (this will take ownership of everything on the extra drive) this is necessary to grant access
    icacls D:\* /T /grant:f administrators (this will grant administrators full access to everything in the D drive.
    icacls D:\* /T /grant:f users (same thing but for regular users as well.
    after some changes, the last two commands also worked. The first command worked on the first try.
    but still, these error-correcting commands didn't fix the errors including the error of saving files to d drive.
    trying to delete the files on d drive, gives the following error message
    the recycle bin is corrupt, do you want to empty the recycle bin for this drive.
    Renaming a folder on d drive gives the following error message,
    you will need to provide administrator permission to rename this folder.
    continue skip cancel
    if these errors are permission errors on d drive, which started for permission problems from the folder, then why didn't the above permission corrections commands, fixed the problem.
    and if these are problems due to corruption on the drive,
    then why sfc/scannow, dism, and chkdsk /f d: not fix the problem of corruption.
    and if this is due to some virus or malware, then why does this virus spread to other drives and two attached USB drives. it is possible to save files to c drive and USB drives and making and renaming folders there. but not on d drive.
    waiting for a fruitful and mutually beneficial discussion on this problem.
    thanks.

    - - - Updated - - -

    these are some pictures for explanation.

    https://www.tenforums.com/attachment...-26-030839.png
    https://www.tenforums.com/attachment...-26-031114.png
    https://www.tenforums.com/attachment...-26-034620.png
    Last edited by rqhhe; 29 Aug 2021 at 03:49.
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  5. Posts : 16,946
    Windows 10 Home x64 Version 22H2 Build 19045.4170
       #15

    rqhhe,

    It's up to you but you'll normally get better responses if you post diagrams here rather than on another website. People can see straightaway if the issue is something they can help with.

    How to Upload and Post Screenshots and Files - TenForumsTutorials
    How to Remove a Screenshot or Image from TenForums.com Post - TenForumsTutorials

    All the best,
    Denis
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  6. Posts : 50
    win 10 pro
       #16

    Try3 said:
    rqhhe,

    It's up to you but you'll normally get better responses if you post diagrams here rather than on another website. People can see straightaway if the issue is something they can help with.

    How to Upload and Post Screenshots and Files - TenForumsTutorials
    How to Remove a Screenshot or Image from TenForums.com Post - TenForumsTutorials

    All the best,
    Denis
    the pictures uploaded to this forum according to the rules of this forum got disappeared when I clicked on the post quick reply button. So the pictures got uploaded to a popular cloud server.
    thanks.
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  7. Posts : 16,946
    Windows 10 Home x64 Version 22H2 Build 19045.4170
       #17

    Here are rqhhe's diagrams

    Windows 10 Permissions Issues-nother-errorscreenshot-2021-08-26-030839.png

    Windows 10 Permissions Issues-recyclebiniscorruptedscreenshot-2021-08-26-031114.png

    Windows 10 Permissions Issues-savepermissionsscreenshot-2021-08-26-034620.png


    rqhhe - Now you can right-click on each of them here & select Copy then paste them into your previous post in whatever position makes sense within your text.


    Denis
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  8. Posts : 50
    win 10 pro
       #18
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  9. Posts : 16,946
    Windows 10 Home x64 Version 22H2 Build 19045.4170
       #19

    No and I am definitely not going to be able to unless you put those diagrams in the appropriate places in your post.

    Denis
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  10. Posts : 50
    win 10 pro
       #20

    Try3 said:
    rqhhe,

    It's up to you but you'll normally get better responses if you post diagrams here rather than on another website. People can see straightaway if the issue is something they can help with.

    How to Upload and Post Screenshots and Files - TenForumsTutorials
    How to Remove a Screenshot or Image from TenForums.com Post - TenForumsTutorials

    All the best,
    Denis
    Discussion. of what it could be and how can people avoid or fix it.
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