Is it worth setting up another user account for my dad?

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    About "do you then need to have two Microsoft.com accounts, I'm assuming you do?"

    Thinking about it, please would you explain why you thought this. I am concerned that your question masks a deeper misunderstanding about the nature of local/MS user accounts or Admin/Standard user accounts and would like to clear things up.

    Denis
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       #12

    Try3 said:
    About "do you then need to have two Microsoft.com accounts, I'm assuming you do?"

    Thinking about it, please would you explain why you thought this. I am concerned that your question masks a deeper misunderstanding about the nature of local/MS user accounts or Admin/Standard user accounts and would like to clear things up.

    Denis
    I always assumed that my Microsoft.com account was tied to my Windows 10 account as I had to enter this email address when installing Windows 10.

    I was wondering if then having another Windows 10 account would have necessitated another Microsoft.com login.

    Best wishes.
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       #13

    OK. Not a bother then.
    - If you have an MSAccount-linked user account on your computer then it must, by definition, be tied to an MSAccount
    - But you can have any number of local accounts - they are local, they exist only on your computer and they are not tied to any MSAccount

    You could have created a local account when first installing & setting up your computer. Whilst the details vary over time & versions, it always looks like you have no choice except to create an MSAccount-linked user account but there has always been an opt-out using a button shown on that screen.

    Denis
    Last edited by Try3; 09 Mar 2019 at 15:07.
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  4. Posts : 116
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       #14

    Thanks again @Try3.

    :)
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    g41851 said:
    Thanks again @Try3.

    :)
    You reply quicker than I type/edit.

    I added [above] -
    You could have created a local account when first installing & setting up your computer. Whilst the details vary over time & versions, it always looks like you have no choice except to create an MSAccount-linked user account but there has always been an opt-out using a button shown on that screen.

    Denis
    Last edited by Try3; 09 Mar 2019 at 15:08.
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       #16

    Try3 said:
    ** I keep UAC at full to reduce the number of hacks that can breach through my day-to-day Admin account.
    This doesn't help. If you are running as a member of Administrator group it is trivial for malware to bypass UAC. If you want to be safer you should always run as a standard user.

    Out of interest, I have a word document on my desktop called "Passwords.docx". I find it more convenient. Whether it is more or less secure than a piece of paper is debatable (obviously my disk is encrypted so actually I'm not sure)
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       #17

    lx07 said:
    This doesn't help. If you are running as a member of Administrator group it is trivial for malware to bypass UAC. If you want to be safer you should always run as a standard user.

    Out of interest, I have a word document on my desktop called "Passwords.docx". I find it more convenient. Whether it is more or less secure than a piece of paper is debatable (obviously my disk is encrypted so actually I'm not sure)
    I have to admit, I have a .txt document full of passwords too. It's probably a bad idea, but I've been doing this for years now and haven't got out of the habit. Chrome saves most of my passwords, but it's nice to have this file as a backup.
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  8. Posts : 5,478
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       #18

    g41851 said:
    I have to admit, I have a .txt document full of passwords too. It's probably a bad idea, but I've been doing this for years now and haven't got out of the habit. Chrome saves most of my passwords, but it's nice to have this file as a backup.
    You should probably encrypt your disk - otherwise they will all be free for anyone to see.

    Your specs say you have Windows 10 Pro on Surface Book 2. I'm not sure if bitlocker is enabled by default but if not you should turn it on.

    Have a look on File Explorer - if you don't have a padlock like this then look at this tutorial Turn On or Off BitLocker for Operating System Drive in Windows 10 | Tutorials

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  9. Posts : 16,786
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    @lx07

    About "If you are running as a member of Administrator group it is trivial for malware to bypass UAC"

    Please provide your source for that statement.

    The last time I investigated this, only one alleged hack could [so it was said] cope if UAC was at full & I was unable to replicate its behaviour so I concluded that the issue had been solved by a Windows update.

    - - - - - - - - - - - -

    I have a password-protected Excel file listing all my passwords.
    - My remarks about using an ID tag were for a small number of passwords that can fit onto a small piece of paper. I use it to hold all my user account passwords.
    - It lives on a USB stick & is backed up to another that lives behind the boiler.
    - The USB stick lives on my keyring along with the ID tag. The keyring fits onto a ring sewn into my coat. The ring & hence the USB are within a Velcro-fastened pocket. I don't take my jacket off outside unless I am sitting on it or unless I am wearing jeans that have one of those tight little key pockets that I can put my keyring in.
    - I only connect it offline & with browsers closed.
    - Even with a password-protected file on an encrypted disk, if it was open whilst online then a "drive by" attack might steal some or all contents.

    Denis
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  10. Posts : 116
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       #20

    lx07 said:
    You should probably encrypt your disk - otherwise they will all be free for anyone to see.

    Your specs say you have Windows 10 Pro on Surface Book 2. I'm not sure if bitlocker is enabled by default but if not you should turn it on.

    Have a look on File Explorer - if you don't have a padlock like this then look at this tutorial Turn On or Off BitLocker for Operating System Drive in Windows 10 | Tutorials
    Yes, it's all encrypted :)
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