Windows 10: Windows Insider - Clean install latest Fast Ring build  

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  1. Posts : 1,919
    Windows 10 x86 14383 Insider Pro and Core 10240
       27 Oct 2017 #10

    If you cut to the chase by invoking OOBE whilst in the Defaultuser0 mode, why not just apply the relevant WIM/ESD image with DISM, cutting out the preparatory checks and operations run by Windows Setup to get straight to OOBE? Surely this is an approved methodology for deployment, and lends itself to automation if it (the reset/update) is to be regularly repeated with new insider builds?

    Depending on the required configuration - GPT/UEFI or MBR/BIOS, you can make it as elaborate or compact as you like for your chosen hardware and system needs.
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  2. Posts : 13,434
    Windows 10 Pro
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       27 Oct 2017 #11

    Fafhrd said: View Post
    If you cut to the chase by invoking OOBE whilst in the Defaultuser0 mode, why not just apply the relevant WIM/ESD image with DISM.
    Where would you get WIM / ESD file?

    The starting point, whole idea in this tut is to get as cleanly installed Fast ring build as possible in a way that is supported. When Microsoft's Insider team sees an ISO made from UUP files as a big bad wolf, a big no no, where and how would you get install.wim image to apply? As soon as you make it from UUP files, you are in unsupported territory.
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  3. Posts : 1,919
    Windows 10 x86 14383 Insider Pro and Core 10240
       27 Oct 2017 #12

    From the official ISO download that you start with.

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    In:
    Apply Windows Image using DISM Instead of Clean Install Installation Upgrade Tutorials

    - you state how this significantly cuts down time, and you must agree, is much more applicable to scripting than using Windows Setup.
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  4. Posts : 13,434
    Windows 10 Pro
    Thread Starter
       27 Oct 2017 #13

    Fafhrd said: View Post
    From the official ISO download that you start with.

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    Apply Windows Image using DISM Instead of Clean Install Installation Upgrade Tutorials

    - you state how this significantly cuts down time, and you must agree, is much more applicable to scripting than using Windows Setup.
    Those downloads are not Fast Ring builds. They are either last official release, at the moment 1709, or last Slow Ring ISO, at the moment 16299. Applying those images does not give user latest Fast Ring build, at the moment 17025.

    Tutorial tells to download one of them to have an officially supported install media to start with (official release or Slow Ring ISO), then use defaultuser0 to upgrade.

    I might misunderstand something, but my question remains: where to get the last Fast Ring install.wim to be applied?
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  5. Posts : 1,921
    Windows 10 Pro IP Build 16299.192 (Branch: RS3 Release)
       28 Oct 2017 #14

    Kari said: View Post
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    I might misunderstand something, but my question remains: where to get the last Fast Ring install.wim to be applied?
    Yep, that is the real question here. And the answer is: From nowhere
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  6. Posts : 38,043
    Dual boot Windows 10 FCU Pro x 64 & current Insider 10 Pro
       28 Oct 2017 #15

    Sheesh! I forgot about this tutorial while redoing my dual boot last night. Although I used a 17017.1000 UUPtoISO on a thumb, created a local account at first, it configured fast ring Insider after changing to MS account, and all went well, but this would've been quicker. I wouldn't have had to spend the time to create the 17017 thumb (with Rufus) and kept the MCT thumb in to install it this way on my second partition.

    Also, not a big thing, but when changing to an MS account straightaway, I had a little problem with the naming of my email account. It called it something like WT738 or something like that. I was able to change it ok. Had no problem on primary partition OS. Weird.

    I'll have to edit my notes to this. Thinking of redoing my Acer, but it has legacy BIOS. We'll see.

    In a Frank Sinatra voice > OOBE dooby doo, in love forever, OOBE dooby doo....
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  7.    29 Oct 2017 #16

    Thanks for this Kari, worked nicely. Only issue I had was that I had to restart after creating the user as there was no sign out option. I then deleted the excess user folders and all seems ok.
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  8. Posts : 1,259
    WinX Pro x64 IP current
       29 Nov 2017 #17

    Hi, @Kari

    I tried to use this tutorial along with the Move \Users tree tutorial to perform a clean install.

    What I did was as Step 1.2, rather than just hitting SHIFT + F10, I went to the Move Users tree tutorial and took over from there, starting with the CTRL + SHIFT + F3 to reboot into Audit mode. Once that process was completed and I was back at an OOBE prompt, I resumed from step 1.2 here, but when I went to perform the steps, after authenticating for WU, it would not let me change from the normal WU Update set up, and since I was in a rush to complete it I stopped trying with this tutorial and decided to complete the OOBE and then change the values for IP builds.

    Does that sound like something simply glitched, or would this be a known issue since I combined the 2 tutorials? For example, instead of giving me a defaultuser0 account, after performing the Users tree move, the OOBE was in an account actually named administrator.

    If this was a one off, no worries, but as I just clean installed everything, I can set up a VM and capture screenshots and whatnot if you'd like to explore this further, on the off-chance that it is not a one-off.

    Just curious to see your thoughts on this.
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