Windows 10: Clean Install Windows 10 without DVD or USB Flash Drive  

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  1. Posts : 12,966
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       30 Sep 2017 #10

    DavidY said: View Post
    Yes and I do have an SD card in there which, as you said, won't boot it but will be a place to store things such as drivers (although I guess the SD card itself will also need a driver... so again I'll need to be careful!)
    Basically, you could use SD card instead of shrinking C: and making a temporary partition on HDD / SSD, possible problem being exactly as you mentioned not knowing if when booted to Command Prompt SD card driver is loaded. Another possible issue is does the touchscreen work when booting to Command Prompt.

    Easy to test, though. Boot to Command Prompt and see if touch works. If not, just hard reset the device. If touch works, use DISKPART to see if SD card is shown.

    Kari
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       30 Sep 2017 #11

    Thanks Kari. Looks like a lot of time and effort went into this like most of your tutorials. Well laid out and easy to follow.
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  3.    01 Oct 2017 #12

    Kari said: View Post
    BTW, did you know that Windows ISO or DVD / USB burned from it contains two different Setup.exe applications to install Windows? If you run Setup.exe which is located on root of the ISO (for instance X:\setup.exe), only in-place upgrade install is possible, but running the other Setup.exe from Sources folder (X:\Sources\Setup.exe) allows a custom install.
    Kari
    After all these years, that is a new one on me!
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       01 Oct 2017 #13

    cereberus said: View Post
    After all these years, that is a new one on me!
    It's not a well documented feature, I've noticed there are quite a many advanced users who do not know it.
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  5.    01 Oct 2017 #14

    Kari said: View Post
    Basically, you could use SD card instead of shrinking C: and making a temporary partition on HDD / SSD, possible problem being exactly as you mentioned not knowing if when booted to Command Prompt SD card driver is loaded. Another possible issue is does the touchscreen work when booting to Command Prompt.

    Easy to test, though. Boot to Command Prompt and see if touch works. If not, just hard reset the device. If touch works, use DISKPART to see if SD card is shown.

    Kari
    Most tablets will not boot from an SD card, but you can usually see it ok even from a winpse session e.g. Macrium Reflect. I have never needed to install any drivers for them.

    As you say, it is important to have drivers saved for tablets in particular, or else upon reinstallation of Windows, the drivers may be missing as they use special drivers, in particular touchscreen and rotation sensors.

    Many have clean installed, and found they need to attach a usb mouse /keyboard via an OTG cable/hub to use device. Unfortunately many cheap tablet vendors do not put the drivers on the web, and unless you can find a kind soul who will send you the drivers, you can be totally out of luck.

    One day without thinking, I clean installed Windows 10 on a tablet without explicitly saving drivers. Even us Gurus can screw up now and then!

    Rather than trying to find them on the web, I had fortunately made a Macrium image backup of old installation (automatic reflex reaction :-)). I simply mounted that as a drive, and was able to install drivers by pointing to driver directories in image backup.

    Incidentally, I recently made a post on the Backup sub forum about some tests I did a few days ago making image backups of a 32bit UEFI tablet with the various main free players (Aoemi, Paragon, Macrium, Easesus, Veeam, Windows and even Clonezilla (which failed but I did not report).

    Only two of them, Macrium Reflect and Easeus Todo Backup were successful with the rest failing miserably. Macrium was five times faster than Easeus though. You might want to add a note to your Macrium Backup tutorial to state that it is the only tool that works on such devices where other fail or are very slow.
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  6.    01 Oct 2017 #15

    Kari said: View Post
    It's not a well documented feature, I've noticed there are quite a many advanced users who do not know it.
    I assume your tutorial would work on Windows 7 where people get issues booting from a pc with only usb3 ports due to Windows 7 lack of usb3 file support i.e. you could clean install Windows 10 first, then use your tutorial method to clean install Windows 7?
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       01 Oct 2017 #16

    cereberus said: View Post
    I assume your tutorial would work on Windows 7 where people get issues booting from a pc with only usb3 ports due to Windows 7 lack of usb3 file support i.e. you could clean install Windows 10 first, then use your tutorial method to clean install Windows 7?
    How To Add Drivers to Windows 7 ISO to Boot/Install USB 3.0
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  8.    01 Oct 2017 #17

    Yeah - I am aware of this but it is a bit of a hassle and not really for newbies,. Simply installing Windows 10 temporarily, and using @Kari's method is just much easier albeit it might take a little longer.
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  9. Posts : 17,612
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       01 Oct 2017 #18

    Nice thing about Windows 10, is the awesome driver support.
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  10. Posts : 1,908
    Windows 3.1 to Windows 10
       03 Oct 2017 #19

    One would use DISM to add the Touch Drivers to the Boot.wim, Install.wim or winre.wim to have the required touch driver support
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