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  1.    09 Jul 2017 #770
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fafhrd View Post
    Just for Information Kari, Chrome is still showing UUPtoISOsetup.exe downloads as being a dangerous file and blocks it.
    There's nothing much I can do for it. The installer is digitally signed by Designer Media Ltd, the owner of TenForums.com and its sister sites. I've done everything in my power to get it completely whitelisted.

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  2.    09 Jul 2017 #771
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    Quote Originally Posted by fdegrove View Post
    Hi,

    Had a reply ready for you but IE crashed once again.
    Basically, and with respect, you're misinformed on a number of points.
    The important one is to use the files in the folder containing the .esd right before Windows invites you to restart to finish the update.
    If not the these files can be found under Windows.old. Either copy or copy shortcuts to the UUP subfolder of UuptoIso and proceed creating the ISO.

    The .esd created by MCT is of a different type and won't work with UuptoIso at all.

    Cheers,
    Hi, fdegrove. I'd appreciate it if you would please take the time to answer me a few questions.

    What did you mean by "Had a reply ready for you but IE crashed once again"? How did that relate to anything, if at all?

    What was it in any of my posts that you thought I was "misinformed"?

    Why would you think you had to "correct" me even though my post was a conversation with question directed at tracit99?

    HG
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  3.    10 Jul 2017 #772
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    @Kari, correct me if I'm oversimplifying. The purpose of the "ESD" in UUPtoISO, as described in this tut, is to find the folder location that contains all the files (.esd, .cab, .???) needed. Nothing magical, per se, about the file......just a convenient search mechanism (EXT:ESD). From build to build, that folder can/will change, but the .esd (current one downloaded) will always point to the current folder needed.
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  4.    10 Jul 2017 #773
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    Quote Originally Posted by f14tomcat View Post
    @Kari, correct me if I'm oversimplifying. The purpose of the "ESD" in UUPtoISO, as described in this tut, is to find the folder location that contains all the files (.esd, .cab, .???) needed. Nothing magical, per se, about the file......just a convenient search mechanism (EXT:ESD). From build to build, that folder can/will change, but the .esd (current one downloaded) will always point to the current folder needed.
    Exactly.

    Be it a differential (express) upgrade with just one ESD file, or canonical upgrade with 10+ ESD files, those ESD files are always located in that exact folder we need to create an ISO. The easiest and fastest way to find the correct folder is to search for ESD file / files.

    An example. Here's a screenshot from a clean installed W10 Enterprise version 1703 after Windows Update has downloaded, initialized and prepared the build 16237 upgrade, possible UUP folders needed to make an ISO highlighted:
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    As only one of those folders is needed, finding it with a simple search is the easiest way I can think of. In case of build 16237 now it being a differential upgrade, the single ESD file was found with search ext:esd. I simple right click it, or any of multiple ESD files found if upgrade is canonical, and open the file location:
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    Most often, but not always, the folder with most recent time stamp is the correct one, you might not need to search but try your luck instead based on time stamp. However, as the idea of any tutorial at Ten Forums is to be as fail proof as possible, I recommend using the ESD search to be sure that the correct folder is found.

    Now I can copy the folder path, paste it in UUPtoISO and start making ISO:
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    With the next build upgrade we need to search again because the folder names are unique in each build upgrade. The only common factor is that those folders always have a 32 bit (32 character) hexadecimal string as the folder name.

    Kari
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  5.    10 Jul 2017 #774
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kari View Post
    Exactly.

    Be it a differential (express) upgrade with just one ESD file, or canonical upgrade with 10+ ESD files, those ESD files are always located in that exact folder we need to create an ISO. The easiest and fastest way to find the correct folder is to search for ESD file / files.

    An example. Here's a screenshot from a clean installed W10 Enterprise version 1703 after Windows Update have downloaded, initialized and prepared the build 16237 upgrade, possible UUP folders needed to make an ISO highlighted:
    Name:  image.png
Views: 433
Size:  327.2 KB

    As only one of those folders is needed, finding it with a simple search is the easiest way I can think of. In case of build 16237 now it being a differential upgrade, the single ESD file was found with search ext:esd. I simple right click it, or any of multiple ESD files found if upgrade is canonical, and open the file location:
    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	image.png 
Views:	35 
Size:	136.1 KB 
ID:	143314

    Most often, but not always, the folder with most recent time stamp is the correct one, you might not need to search but try your luck instead based on time stamp. However, as the idea of any tutorial at Ten Forums is to be as fail proof as possible, I recommend using the ESD search to be sure that the correct folder is found.

    Now I can copy the folder path, paste it in UUPtoISO and start making ISO:
    Name:  image.png
Views: 426
Size:  103.9 KB

    With the next build upgrade we need to search again because the folder names are unique in each build upgrade. The only common factor is that those folders always have a 32 bit (32 character) hexadecimal string as the folder name.

    Kari
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  6.    10 Jul 2017 #775
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    You are welcome
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  7.    27 Jul 2017 #776
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    Getting errors when using the windows.old version to create the ISO of fast ring version 16251 (automated and unattended update was done). Any ideas what went wrong and why no ISO was created?
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  8.    27 Jul 2017 #777
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    Quote Originally Posted by John Pombrio View Post
    Any ideas what went wrong and why no ISO was created?
    A file that according to manifest belongs to install.wim file is missing, therefore the operation cannot proceed. Process stops after first not found file, there might be more files missing but one is enough for process to fail.

    Please notice John, the following is in no way targeted to you, although posted in this same post. I am just venting a bit:

    I have been trying to reply to those in my opinion misleading posts with invalid advice which boldly state "No worries, you don't have to make ISO before the upgrade, you can always find UUP files in Windows.old".

    The correct wording is "... you might find UUP files in Windows.old folder". Sometimes you don't find them anymore.

    The red warning box in tutorial is not there just because I like the red color. It's there because you geeks should always (I repeat: absolutely always!) make the ISO before you click Restart now, or if you are not able to monitor the upgrade download / initializing process, use Active hours option (see this post) to be sure Windows does not restart alone before you have made the ISO.

    Kari
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  9.    27 Jul 2017 #778
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kari View Post
    A file that according to manifest belongs to install.wim file is missing, therefore the operation cannot proceed. Process stops after first not found file, there might be more files missing but one is enough for process to fail.

    Please notice John, the following is in no way targeted to you, although posted in this same post. I am just venting a bit:

    I have been trying to reply to those in my opinion misleading posts with invalid advice which boldly state "No worries, you don't have to make ISO before the upgrade, you can always find UUP files in Windows.old".

    The correct wording is "... you might find UUP files in Windows.old folder". Sometimes you don't find them anymore.

    The red warning box in tutorial is not there just because I like the red color. It's there because you geeks should always (I repeat: absolutely always!) make the ISO before you click Restart now, or if you are not able to monitor the upgrade download / initializing process, use Active hours option (see this post) to be sure Windows does not restart alone before you have made the ISO.

    Kari
    Kari, I am one guilty geek. I always create the ISO after the restart but so far everything is fine. I'l keep this in mind when I encounter problems.
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  10.    27 Jul 2017 #779
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kari View Post
    A file that according to manifest belongs to install.wim file is missing, therefore the operation cannot proceed. Process stops after first not found file, there might be more files missing but one is enough for process to fail.

    Please notice John, the following is in no way targeted to you, although posted in this same post. I am just venting a bit:

    I have been trying to reply to those in my opinion misleading posts with invalid advice which boldly state "No worries, you don't have to make ISO before the upgrade, you can always find UUP files in Windows.old".

    The correct wording is "... you might find UUP files in Windows.old folder". Sometimes you don't find them anymore.

    The red warning box in tutorial is not there just because I like the red color. It's there because you geeks should always (I repeat: absolutely always!) make the ISO before you click Restart now, or if you are not able to monitor the upgrade download / initializing process, use Active hours option (see this post) to be sure Windows does not restart alone before you have made the ISO.

    Kari
    Just had let Windows finish downloading 16251 and then fired up UUptoISO and used it, gave me the same error, though i didn't press install on Windows Update nor restart, currently doing the 16251 install, i'll run UUPtoISO again right after it gets done before the reboot notif
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