Page 2 of 28 FirstFirst 123412 ... LastLast
  1.    11 Dec 2016 #10
    Join Date : Oct 2015
    Posts : 2,020
    Windows 10 Pro X64

    Most impressive job, Kari.
      My ComputersSystem Spec
  2.    11 Dec 2016 #11
    Join Date : Oct 2013
    A Finnish expat in Germany
    Posts : 12,945
    Windows 10 Pro
    Thread Starter

    Thanks guys and gals! Tried to make steps so easy to follow that everyone can follow them, interested in hearing when you test this.
    Last edited by Kari; 11 Dec 2016 at 16:29.
      My ComputerSystem Spec
  3.    11 Dec 2016 #12
    Join Date : Feb 2015
    3rd Rock
    Posts : 728
    WinX Pro x64 IP v14986

    I am going to have to continue this later. I have bigger issues with my machine right now. Much bigger.

    BSODs with tcpip.sys, MB3 reverted to free version, and my 256 GB SSD drive where I move my \Users tree to says it has 144 GB used - impossible, there is nothing there - yesterday it was barely 30 GB used.

    Something is up....
      My ComputersSystem Spec
  4.    11 Dec 2016 #13
    Join Date : Aug 2014
    Australia, Adelaide
    Posts : 1,554
    W7 Ultimate SP1 (64 bit), LM 18.2 MATE (64 bit), W10 Home (64 bit)

    Thanks Kari.
      My ComputerSystem Spec
  5.    11 Dec 2016 #14
    Join Date : Nov 2013
    Toronto
    Posts : 4,634
    Win 10 Pro x64

    Great tut Kari!
      My ComputerSystem Spec
  6.    11 Dec 2016 #15
    Join Date : Oct 2015
    Posts : 2,020
    Windows 10 Pro X64
      My ComputersSystem Spec
  7.    12 Dec 2016 #16
    Join Date : Oct 2013
    A Finnish expat in Germany
    Posts : 12,945
    Windows 10 Pro
    Thread Starter

    Quote Originally Posted by fdegrove View Post
    Hi, Anyone used one of these templates yet ?

    Those answer file generators are really bad. My recommendation is to never use them. I've tested them, they leave you with an answer file which needs a lot of manual editing before you can use it.

    I wholeheartedly recommend you do (generate) your own answer files in case the example ones in tutorial are not what you want to use, tool for it Windows SIM (System Image Manager) was installed on your computer when you installed Windows ADK in Part Five of this tutorial, assuming that you installed the parts I recommended in step 5.3.

    Take a look of Part Five in this tutorial, it shows the basics in generating your first answer file with Windows SIM: Windows 10 Image - Customize in Audit Mode with Sysprep - Windows 10 Tutorials

    Check Windows SIM, I'm here ready to answer your questions about generating a working, valid and personal answer file. I do not claim to be an answer file authority, I am just saying I know enough in order to be able to assist in most cases.



     What is an answer file?

    Might be a good idea to talk a little bit more about answer file (also called unattended answer file) and its role in customisation. To start with, an answer file is a set of instructions in XML file format. These instructions are given with so called components, set to be run in various phases of Windows setup. There are 7 of these phases, called settings pass (screenshot from SIM):
    Name:  image.png
Views: 366
Size:  25.2 KB

    Windows setup goes through each of the 7 settings passes, starting of course with settings pass 1 WindowsPE. I say of course because when clean installing Windows, there is no OS yet but an OS is needed to get Windows installed, a dilemma which is resolved by loading a mini OS (WinPE) to RAM disk and running it from there.

    When Sysprep is run and it finds a valid answer file, it does everything the file tells it to do, running each included component in answer file in appropriate settings pass. Sysprep keeps record of the setup phase and tells setup to do what's told in answer file.

    An example, the simple answer file in step 3.8 in this tutorial, We use Shell-Setup > CopyProfile component, setting its value to TRUE. CopyProfile must be added in settings pass 4 Specialize as in our example answer file:
    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	image.png 
Views:	38 
Size:	28.7 KB 
ID:	113327
    (Click to enlarge.)

    Answer file structure and syntax are clear, you can write them manually, too, but using Windows SIM makes it easy. In above example we have set command CopyProfile with value TRUE (blue highlight in above screenshot) in component Shell-Setup tags (green), placing it in correct settings pass (yellow).

    Now when Windows setup arrives to settings pass 4 it get's this command to copy the built-in admin's user profile with all customisations and personalisations to default user profile (hidden profile folder C:\Users\Default). That's what CopyProfile do. Now whenever a new user account will be created and new user signs in first time, the default settings, customisations and personalisations will be copied from default profile to user profile.

    There are loads of components to be used in answer file, each component containing several commands, the above was just a simple example.

    Kari
      My ComputerSystem Spec
  8.    12 Dec 2016 #17
    Join Date : Oct 2015
    Posts : 2,020
    Windows 10 Pro X64

    Hi,

    Those answer file generators are really bad. My recommendation is to never use them. I've tested them, they leave you with an answer file which needs a lot of manual editing before you can use it.
    I thought as much.
    I'll get back to this if you don't mind but basically this is what I'd like to do:

    I have an OEM DL layer DVD that I'd like to update using the current RTM AU version. The old version contains some updates for 10240 which are no longer pertinent to AU etc.

    I've already done some basic stuff which seems to work alright but I'd like to understand all this better.

    Either way, thanks a bunch for the kind reply.

    Cheers,
    Last edited by fdegrove; 12 Dec 2016 at 06:03.
      My ComputersSystem Spec
  9.    12 Dec 2016 #18
    Join Date : Oct 2013
    A Finnish expat in Germany
    Posts : 12,945
    Windows 10 Pro
    Thread Starter

    Quote Originally Posted by fdegrove View Post
    I have an OEM DL layer DVD that I'd like to update using the current RTM AU version. The old version contains some updates for 10240 which are no longer pertinent to AU etc.

    I've already done some basic stuff but which seems to work alright but I'd like to understand all this better.
    I am not sure if I understood you correctly? You have OEM Windows 10 version 1507 build 10240 on dual layer DVD, you would like to update it with version 1607 build 14393?

    If so, you can do it easily, and quite fast because you can skip the excruciatingly slow Part Four; you don't have to create 14393 install.wim because that is already freely available.

    Steps involved:

    1. Copy the full content of the 10240 dual layer DVD to a new folder on any hard disk, internal or external. Let's say you copy it to X:\ISO_Files
    2. Mount 14393 ISO, copy the Sources\install.wim file to X:\ISO_Files\Sources, replacing the original 10240 install.wim
    3. Create new ISO as told in Part Five in this tutorial


    No answer file needed. Really easy, really fast. You will get an updated 14393 ISO image, with full content of your old 10240 DVD.

    Kari
      My ComputerSystem Spec
  10.    12 Dec 2016 #19
    Join Date : Oct 2015
    Posts : 2,020
    Windows 10 Pro X64

    Hi,

    It is a DL DVD because it contains an awful lot of language packs. I updated most of them to current versions just for peace of mind.


    [QUOTE]Copy the full content of the 10240 dual layer DVD to a new folder on any hard disk, internal or external. Let's say you copy it to X:\ISO_Files[/QUOTE]

    That's what I did.

    Mount 14393 ISO, copy the Sources\install.wim file to X:\ISO_Files\Sources, replacing the original 10240 install.wim
    I actually replaced all files, not just the install.wim

    Create new ISO as told in Part Five in this tutorial
    I replaced some of the updates that are intended for 10240 with new ones.
    I'll check in a minute what I did exactly and get back to you.
    Those are the bits I don't understand because I can't seem to find any trace of all that in the answer file and I fail to see what calls these to execute.

    I'll reread that but here's what I've done : I created a new ISO file using Imgburn, mounted that and copied the contents to a USB stick which I used to do a test install. Seems to work OK but I'd like to understand the finer details of the OEM stuff.

    No answer file needed.
    There is none on the original OEM DVD.

    I'll hook up the external disk and get back asap.

    Thanks,

    Frank.
    Last edited by fdegrove; 12 Dec 2016 at 09:32.
      My ComputersSystem Spec

 
Page 2 of 28 FirstFirst 123412 ... LastLast


Similar Threads
Tutorial Category
Backup & Restore Create System Image in Windows 10
How to Create a System Image in Windows 10 A system image is an exact copy of all system disks which can be used to restore your PC to the state it was in at the time the image was made. By default, a system image only includes the drives that...
Tutorials
We could not create a new partiiton or locate an existing one
The error in the title appears when I try to format my C partition to install windows 10 there. This error does not appear when I install windows 7,I just formatted and installed 7 successfully however it doesn't work for Windows 10. Specs 2.9 GHZ...
Installation and Upgrade
Create dual boot Win10 with existing WinXP installation
Hi, I have seen posts that are partially related to my question, but do not answer all of my questions. Here the situation: GOAL: Create a dualboot system with a clean WIndows 10 installation on SSD while keeping my regular Windows XP for as...
Installation and Upgrade
Windows 10 Create System Image
Windows 10 build 10586 x64. When I try to create a System Image I find that Windows 8.1 and Windows 10 are both selected. How Do I just create a system Image for Windows 10
Backup and Restore
Windows couldn't create a partition or locate an existing one
I had a kali linux installed in my computer. Then I tried to install Windows 10 using a bootable USB drive. (I created it by downloading the windows 10 ISO and then creating USB drive using Rufus.) But when I was trying to install windows 10, it...
Installation and Upgrade
Our Sites
Site Links
About Us
Windows 10 Forums is an independent web site and has not been authorized, sponsored, or otherwise approved by Microsoft Corporation. "Windows 10" and related materials are trademarks of Microsoft Corp.

© Designer Media Ltd
All times are GMT -5. The time now is 14:18.
Find Us
Twitter Facebook Google+ Ten Forums iOS App Ten Forums Android App



Windows 10 Forums