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  1. CountMike's Avatar
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       #430

    f14tomcat said:
    This indicates it is booted from the stick, and/or Menu Option for Macrium. Arrow points to the "Console" options for a booted Rescue Environment. Note the OP is on rev 6.2, not the latest 7.2. Should make no difference, just pointing that out.

    Attachment 217937
    Most of difference I see between booting from USB or HDD is in resolution, higher from RE than PE and USB.
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  2. Posts : 101
    Windows 10
       #431

    f14tomcat said:
    This indicates it is booted from the stick, and/or Menu Option for Macrium. Arrow points to the "Console" options for a booted Rescue Environment. Note the OP is on rev 6.2, not the latest 7.2. Should make no difference, just pointing that out.
    Thanks, so :

    If I use Windows>Advanced settings>Restart>Use a Device>UEFI:Removable Device>Restart>
    then it goes to the 'boot menu/choose operating system' blue screen

    If I subsequently choose: "Operating system > Macrium Reflect System Recovery", then the version of macrium i see is (the equivalent of) this
    https://www.tenforums.com/attachment...lect-image.png

    and when I click on the 'Console options' button at the bottom of the screen, it kicks out to a console at
    x:\Windows\System32

    (x: appears to be the USB boot disc)
    The contents of X: is this: 'TheXfiles.txt' | TextUploader.com

    So is the fact that the console shows X: as the active drive sufficient to conclude that macrium is running from the usb rescue disc ? , thanks


    (I can see my images (on another drive) if I try to load them, but haven't got as far as actually restoring them yet - it was the 'booting from the rescue disc' part that that I was mainly concerned about)



    .

    separately, I have been looking all day for a way to 'one-time' boot the rescue disk from BIOS but haven't yet found a keycombo that will get to that option in BIOS (even tried doing it from the EFI shell, per
    usb flash drive - How to boot tablet from USB stick? - Super User
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  3. f14tomcat's Avatar
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       #432

    BobSter2 said:
    Thanks, so :

    If I use Windows>Advanced settings>Restart>Use a Device>UEFI:Removable Device>Restart>
    then it goes to the 'boot menu/choose operating system' blue screen

    If I subsequently choose: "Operating system > Macrium Reflect System Recovery", then the version of macrium i see is (the equivalent of) this
    https://www.tenforums.com/attachment...lect-image.png

    and when I click on the 'Console options' button at the bottom of the screen, it kicks out to a console at
    x:\Windows\System32

    (x: appears to be the USB boot disc)
    The contents of X: is this: 'TheXfiles.txt' | TextUploader.com

    So is the fact that the console shows X: as the active drive sufficient to conclude that macrium is running from the usb rescue disc ? , thanks


    (I can see my images (on another drive) if I try to load them, but haven't got as far as actually restoring them yet - it was the 'booting from the rescue disc' part that that I was mainly concerned about)



    .

    separately, I have been looking all day for a way to 'one-time' boot the rescue disk from BIOS but haven't yet found a keycombo that will get to that option in BIOS (even tried doing it from the EFI shell, per
    usb flash drive - How to boot tablet from USB stick? - Super User
    Yes, you are running from the Macrium Rescue Environment, with either choice. From the USB stick, or the Boot Menu option. You really have very little need to go into the "X" console function, unless you have some sophisticated commands to do. All you need for restoring, or even backing up, is on the main screen in your previous post.

    When finished your work in the Rescue Environment, you click the red button lower left (next to that console button) and you will get the option to restart or shut down.
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  4. kado897's Avatar
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    Windows 10 Home 64bit v20H2 and insider builds
       #433

    BobSter2 said:
    Thanks, so :

    If I use Windows>Advanced settings>Restart>Use a Device>UEFI:Removable Device>Restart>
    then it goes to the 'boot menu/choose operating system' blue screen

    If I subsequently choose: "Operating system > Macrium Reflect System Recovery", then the version of macrium i see is (the equivalent of) this
    https://www.tenforums.com/attachment...lect-image.png

    and when I click on the 'Console options' button at the bottom of the screen, it kicks out to a console at
    x:\Windows\System32

    (x: appears to be the USB boot disc)
    The contents of X: is this: 'TheXfiles.txt' | TextUploader.com

    So is the fact that the console shows X: as the active drive sufficient to conclude that macrium is running from the usb rescue disc ? , thanks


    (I can see my images (on another drive) if I try to load them, but haven't got as far as actually restoring them yet - it was the 'booting from the rescue disc' part that that I was mainly concerned about)



    .

    separately, I have been looking all day for a way to 'one-time' boot the rescue disk from BIOS but haven't yet found a keycombo that will get to that option in BIOS (even tried doing it from the EFI shell, per
    usb flash drive - How to boot tablet from USB stick? - Super User
    Launching MR from the boot menu also boots MR from the X: drive.
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  5. Posts : 101
    Windows 10
       #434

    kado897 said:
    Launching MR from the boot menu also boots MR from the X: drive.
    Hi Yes, I just did a test launching MR from the standard boot menu (i.e. not having booted from a USB drive) and it still shows as X: ,

    Which kind of gets me back to square 1!! If I have an instance of MR on the C: drive and an instance on the USB drive, how can I test that the one on the USB drive will work in the case where the one on C: has been corrupted?
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  6. CountMike's Avatar
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    W10+Developer Insider + Linux
       #435

    BobSter2 said:
    Hi Yes, I just did a test launching MR from the standard boot menu (i.e. not having booted from a USB drive) and it still shows as X: ,

    Which kind of gets me back to square 1!! If I have an instance of MR on the C: drive and an instance on the USB drive, how can I test that the one on the USB drive will work in the case where the one on C: has been corrupted?
    Couple of hints, it will BOOT way slower from USB than from disk and resolution will probably be much lower. If you can't choose from BIOS level, what to BOOT from than it's not BOOTing from USB.
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  7. kado897's Avatar
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    Windows 10 Home 64bit v20H2 and insider builds
       #436

    BobSter2 said:
    Hi Yes, I just did a test launching MR from the standard boot menu (i.e. not having booted from a USB drive) and it still shows as X: ,

    Which kind of gets me back to square 1!! If I have an instance of MR on the C: drive and an instance on the USB drive, how can I test that the one on the USB drive will work in the case where the one on C: has been corrupted?
    You might try removing the Boot Menu option as a test and see if you can boot from USB.That will get rid of any confusion.
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  8. Posts : 101
    Windows 10
       #437

    Thanks. It now seems pretty clear that is not booting from the USB drive (boot time C:/USB is the same, screen res is inconclusive as the screen is only 1280x800 anyway)); removing macrium from the boot menu leaves no room for doubt - it ain't booting from the USB.

    I have recreated the recovery disc in case I had messed up the parameters (esp 32 vs 64bit). I have also recreated it on a different physical USB drive.

    Having removed the boot menu, booting from Windows to the rescue disc just gives a plain blue screen for a minute, then the PC shuts down. Once, it gave me an option to boot the *actual name* of the rescue drive, rather than the usual, generic, "UEFI:Removable Device", but it still didn't get any further than the blank, blue screen after the restart).

    ....I guess I just have to keep plugging away at the 288 different permutations of Cntl, Shift, , Alt and F1-12 ? and hope that my frog will turn into a prince someday??
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  9. Ztruker's Avatar
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    Windows 10 Pro X64 20H4 19042.746
       #438

    Found this:

    Right next to the power button there's a small round button. Click it.
    That's the novo button, it'll let you choose between normal setup, boot menu, BIOS, and system recovery options.

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  10. Posts : 101
    Windows 10
       #439

    Bless you for looking. Sorry, the problem I'm having is on a different machine - a Tesco Connect 9 tablet, manufactured by viglen

    All I found on it was this:
    Solved - Tesco Connect Tablet - First Impressions | Windows 8 Help Forums
    (which is for a slightly earlier version, the Tesco 7(inch)). He says "F7 : Boot Menu where you can choose what you want to boot from - that is either a bootable USB or the main system drive"

    On mine, F7 gives me a Menu:

    Please Select Boot Device
    -Windows Boot Manager
    -UEFI: Built-In EFI Shell
    -Enter Setup

    Selecting 'Setup' shows:

    Aptio Setup utility ver 2.16.1241 American Megatrends inc

    MAIN
    . Compliancy(UEFI2.3, PI1.2); Project_Version(v17.6.R008); Build_Date; CPU_Config (Blank); microcode_Patch(82a); SMBIOS_Info(Blank); SerialNo("To be filled by OEM); Total_Memory(1024MB DDR3L); GOP_Info Intel_GOP_Driver(7.2.1006); TXE_Info SecRC Ver 00.05.00.00; TXEFW Ver 01.01.00.1115; System Language, date time: Access Level(Admin)
    ADVANCED
    . CPU Config; PPM Config; PCI Subsystem Settings; Network Stack Config; USB Config (South/North Bridge); Security Config;Miscellaneous Config;LPSS & SCC Config; System Config; System Component; OS/BOM Config; S5 Charging Config; Thermanl Config
    CHIPSET
    . South Bridge; North Bridge
    SECURITY
    . Amin Password, User Password; Secure Boot Menu (System Mode: Setup; Secure Boot: Not Active; Secure Boot: Enabled; Secure Boot Mode:Standard)
    BOOT
    . Setup_Promp_Timeout(2); Numlock State(On); Quiet_Boot(Enabled); Fast_Boot(Disabled)
    ...then Boot Option Priorities as already described in post 427
    I'm not sure how to boot to USB from Bios. The Bios settings under Boot are
    Boot option Priorities:
    Boot option#1: Windows Boot Manager
    Boot option#2: UEFI: Built-in EFI Shell

    ..and the only available settings under each one are (1) Windows Boot Manager; (2) Built-in EFI Shell; or (3) disable
    ............


    I guess that the USB would have shown-up in that first (F7) menu if it was bootable, eh?

    As I say, I have created the rescue disk several times over on more than one drive. Settings
    Architecture: 32bit (it is a 32 bit machine)
    Add bitlocker support:yes
    Add iSCSI Support:yes
    Enable Legacy EFI Screen Support: yes
    Enable legacy SMB v1 support:yes
    Custom base WIM: No

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    I have another (64 bit) machine (the Levono Yoga2Pro).

    In the 64bit Levono:
    -I CAN boot (from Windows or Bios),a macrium USB rescue disc made ON the 64bit machine.
    -I CAN'T boot (or see, in bios) the macrium USB that I made in the 32bit (tesco connect) machine

    In the 32bit Tesco Connect:
    -The F7 menu CAN see the '64bit' macrium drive (that was made in the 64bit machine). The F7 menu gives me an option to boot from it (although it doesn't actually boot from it, it seems to just boot from the standard Windows boot menu)
    -Nothing seems to see or boot the '32bit' USB that was made in the 32 bit machine
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