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  1.    1 Week Ago #290
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    Quote Originally Posted by reddice View Post
    Thanks. I might want to purchase the home version however none of the coupon codes I find googling online work to get a discount. Still might be worth it for $70 for one user.
    It was 40% off on Black Friday :-(!!
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  2.    1 Week Ago #291
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    Quote Originally Posted by fdegrove View Post
    Hi,

    MR takes a volume snapshot using MS's VSS engine and works from there. So, basically it "owns" the system while it's doing its job.
    It's "shadow copying".

    As a user Windows won't let you access certain folders and files, not even as an admin but the MR package is overrule rights and that's how it gets the job done.


    Cheers,
    Virtually all the main players work like this now (or use their own version of vss).

    It is funny, even now you still get articles/posts on web saying you need to boot to something like clonezilla (do not touch with bargepole now) to make image backups of C drive claiming you cannot backup OS drive from Windows. Others say you can but it is not reliable.

    I have only ever had a single case of a backup failing from Windows and that turned out to be due to a failing drive. The only time I have seen issues is when VSS is not working properly on PC in first place which is quite rare.

    I just set backups running hidden in background and carry on using PC (although I must admit I have forgotten on odd occasion I was doing a backup and rebooted pc - LOL).

    Of course, if you want to run backups to a schedule, you HAVE TO run backup from Windows.
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  3.    1 Week Ago #292
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    I'm still puzzled (sorry to bring this up again) why no one seems to mention that Windows VSS routine as used not only by Windows but other vendors as well such as AOMEI and Macrium WILL NOT correctly restore a PC to the condition it was in when the backup was made.

    The problem is that some files are excluded, some of which may not seem important such as Windows Update history. Others are very important if (like me) you spent a considerable time creating custom image galleries using the default Windows applications. All those custom files and albums are not restored correctly.

    The fix in 3rd party applications is simple, switch from their default use of Microsofts VSS routine to their own. Problem solved.

    Why does no one acknowledge this, either users or 3rd party vendors ? and why does no one seem to care ? That's what really puzzles me

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  4.    1 Week Ago #293
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mooly View Post
    I'm still puzzled (sorry to bring this up again) why no one seems to mention that Windows VSS routine as used not only by Windows but other vendors as well such as AOMEI and Macrium WILL NOT correctly restore a PC to the condition it was in when the backup was made.

    The problem is that some files are excluded, some of which may not seem important such as Windows Update history. Others are very important if (like me) you spent a considerable time creating custom image galleries using the default Windows applications. All those custom files and albums are not restored correctly.

    The fix in 3rd party applications is simple, switch from their default use of Microsofts VSS routine to their own. Problem solved.

    Why does no one acknowledge this, either users or 3rd party vendors ? and why does no one seem to care ? That's what really puzzles me

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    If this is an issue, and you are a Macrium Home user, why not report it to Macrium.

    Of course, most programs do not backup temporary files.

    As a thought, one of Macrium's backup modes is to use bit copy rather than smart sector copying. Have you tried that - backups will be larger though?
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  5.    1 Week Ago #294
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    Quote Originally Posted by cereberus View Post
    If this is an issue, and you are a Macrium Home user, why not report it to Macrium.
    I did actually report this to Macrium around 16 months ago and received a helpful reply.

    ..................It sounds like the problem could be with Volume shadow Copy. Reflect primarily uses this to create a snapshot, if the issue is also present in the "built in" Windows backup utility this confirms the cause. Enabling the option to "Exclude all VSS Writers" will force Reflect to use a basic writer or fail back to using our custom snapshot mechanism.

    If you are not running a server with Exchange and SQL you will not notice any difference................
    I'm just looking back on previous correspondence with AOMEI because I reported this issue to them as well, and this was actually further back in time.

    Hmmm... I noted that AOMEI fixed the issue of Windows Update history not being backed up and it also appeared that restored images also had the correct photo gallery files correctly restored.

    I must check that at some point and try some images using the default VSS with AOMEI.
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