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  1.    23 Jul 2016 #30

    Saved by System Restore Again


    I've been using system restore for years and once again it has saved me sure pain and suffering. Something strange started happening with Chrome; Norton was reporting large data output when accessing Google news articles, I couldn't access Extensions in Chrome settings it simply closed the browser. Googling the problem was no help. Same for deleting and reinstalling Chrome. Fortunately System Restore sets a restore point for every major Win 10 critical update. I went back to the most recent restore point and all is well.

    Yes, I know you don't really need this information here but when things go well I like to tell someone. System restore should be automatically on with Win 10 but sadly it isn't. Microsoft... are you listening
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  2. Posts : 5
    windows 10 pro 64 bit
       30 Jul 2016 #31

    TheSys said: View Post
    I got Ransomware a while back and I went to Microsoft's forum and asked for help. They asked that I try restoring to a restore point and it failed, they then insisted I try a System Image which also failed. They then basically shrugged and told me that I should use a 3rd party solution.

    Luckily I had an Acronis True Image disk image on standby, but without it I'd be SOL. I've since replaced System Restore with a 3rd party tool (Rollback Rx Home Edition) as I can't rely on Sys Restore anymore.
    Do you use rollback RX and True image at the same time ? I heard they don't play well together
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  3.    01 Aug 2016 #32

    Darkane said: View Post
    thanks for taking the effort
    unfortunately all of the above is negative
    I'm very committed to keep full images every week but sometimes you know bringing back a week old image will save my a** but lose many things that are very dynamic like program settings that I've changed or files in user folders.
    I always prefer to keep my files in other partitions than "C:" but not everything can be easily moved there
    some people recommend "Rollback" but it is said that it doesn't play well with disk imaging which is a bummer since both are needed not one or the other
    thanks again
    With many of the tools eg Mcrium Reflect Free, you can create a full system image periodically (say wekly), but do differential backups ie backup the changes on a (say) daily basis with an automatic schedule - these supplementary backups are tiny compared to main image backup. So you the restore the main backup plus the differential backups.

    There are two types of supplementary backups

    1) differential - the backup contains all changes since last full backup. So you only need that plus last differential backup.

    2) incremental - the backup contains all changes since last incremental backup. So you need the full backup plus a "chain" of incremental backups.

    Incs are more space efficient than diffs, but diffs are easier to manage. If an inc fails, all incs afterwards are useless. I use diffs as for most home users the space difference is insignificant.

    Of course, if you make a lot of changes, then you should start with a new full image.
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  4. Posts : 5
    windows 10 pro 64 bit
       13 Aug 2016 #33

    TheSys said: View Post
    They don't perse but I know a few workarounds. Basic jist (as far as I know...) is that Acronis can't read Rollback's pre-boot menu so it doesn't capture it properly. I can always uninstall Rollback then back up with TI, or keep Rollback installed and simply reset the MBR of the disk image. Either way works.

    I know I could use Drive Cloner, it's easier I've heard, I just don't find the Acronis TI/Rollback setup to be that bad.
    neat idea if you can do it automatically like a post command or something how do you do it?
    I haven't heard of drive cloner is it a serious alternative?
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  5. Posts : 5
    windows 10 pro 64 bit
       13 Aug 2016 #34

    cereberus said: View Post
    With many of the tools eg Mcrium Reflect Free, you can create a full system image periodically (say wekly), but do differential backups ie backup the changes on a (say) daily basis with an automatic schedule - these supplementary backups are tiny compared to main image backup. So you the restore the main backup plus the differential backups.

    There are two types of supplementary backups

    1) differential - the backup contains all changes since last full backup. So you only need that plus last differential backup.

    2) incremental - the backup contains all changes since last incremental backup. So you need the full backup plus a "chain" of incremental backups.

    Incs are more space efficient than diffs, but diffs are easier to manage. If an inc fails, all incs afterwards are useless. I use diffs as for most home users the space difference is insignificant.

    Of course, if you make a lot of changes, then you should start with a new full image.
    I never thought of that actually you are right incremental and diff backups if made daily can replace restore points
    but im not sure the space I have is sufficient my disk is only one terabyte and my external not connected all the time is 3 terabyte
    but thanks for the tip it may come handy
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  6.    22 Sep 2016 #35

    My friend and I both have Win 10 with the Anniversary Update, also we have probably about the same amt. of programs and files stored on our C drive. Her restore point is 421.83 MB and mine is 162.41 GB, that is huge for my restore point. I have 10% allotted for my restore points and she has 3% allotted for her restore points. Does these percentage amounts have anything to do with the size of the restore point?
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  7. Posts : 22,230
    64-bit Windows 10 Pro build 16241
    Thread Starter
       22 Sep 2016 #36

    Hello Sonjstar,

    The percentage is for the maximum amount of storage space to be used by System Protection instead. The higher the percentage, the more restore points you will be able to store and have available.

    https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/3...dows-10-a.html
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  8.    22 Sep 2016 #37

    Brink said: View Post
    Hello Sonjstar,

    The percentage is for the maximum amount of storage space to be used by System Protection instead. The higher the percentage, the more restore points you will be able to store and have available.

    https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/3...dows-10-a.html
    Is it unusual for a restore point to be 162 GB? I've had different people tell me that they have never seen a Restore Point to be that big.
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  9. Posts : 22,230
    64-bit Windows 10 Pro build 16241
    Thread Starter
       22 Sep 2016 #38

    Please go ahead and post a screenshot showing where it shows a restore point is that size to see what it may be?
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  10.    22 Sep 2016 #39

    Brink said: View Post
    Please go ahead and post a screenshot showing where it shows a restore point is that size to see what it may be?
    You'll notice on the 3rd. image Restore image. I did a Restore to Sept 15, because I had deleted something that I wanted to get back. It did not restore back to Sept 15.

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