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  1. Joined : Aug 2015
    Posts : 14
    Win 10
       2015-08-24 #10

    Have you been able to have someone test the Fast Start for Win 8/8.1 instructions over at Eight Forums to see if they have changed too? I never used Win 8/8.1, so I cannot help here.
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  2. Joined : Oct 2013
    Posts : 17,367
    64-bit Windows 10 Pro build 15007
       2015-08-24 #11

    Hey Peter,

    The hybrid shut down is still the same in Windows 8.1. It only appears to have changed in Windows 10.
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  3. Joined : Aug 2015
    Posts : 14
    Win 10
       2015-08-24 #12

    Thanks
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  4. Joined : Aug 2015
    Posts : 23
    Windows 10 Home
       2015-08-26 #13

    My hard drive is a hybrid one (Seagate ST750LX003), should turn on Fast startup or turn off? the reason i ask is because hybrid disks (except the Western Digital) the SSD portion learns the user usage, including boot.
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  5. Joined : Oct 2013
    Posts : 17,367
    64-bit Windows 10 Pro build 15007
       2015-08-26 #14

    LM2007 said: View Post
    My hard drive is a hybrid one (Seagate ST750LX003), should turn on Fast startup or turn off? the reason i ask is because hybrid disks (except the Western Digital) the SSD portion learns the user usage, including boot.
    Hello LM2007, and welcome to Ten Forums.

    If you would like to have faster startups from a shut down, then turning on Fast Startup would help with that.

    I'm not sure what you mean "learns the user usage" though. That has nothing to do with Fast Startup.
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  6. Joined : Aug 2015
    Posts : 23
    Windows 10 Home
       2015-08-27 #15

    Brink said: View Post
    Hello LM2007, and welcome to Ten Forums.

    If you would like to have faster startups from a shut down, then turning on Fast Startup would help with that.

    I'm not sure what you mean "learns the user usage" though. That has nothing to do with Fast Startup.
    The drive learns about my usage habit (most opened files or apps and boot files for example) and cache them to the SSD portion for faster read. I know "Fast Startup" do not completely shutdown the system, here is my worry. Since it will not shutdown completely, can it affect how the drive manage the files?
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  7. Joined : Feb 2015
    Bamberg Germany
    Posts : 12,891
    Microsoft Windows 10 Pro 64-bit 14393 Multiprocessor Free
       2015-08-27 #16

    Shawn I think LM2007 is saying his hybrid Seagate has something like RAPID Mode that's on Samsung's.

    Firmware Upgrades: Boot Data-Pinning And Write Caching

    The ST750LX003 sports two firmware-based improvements compared to its predecessor. First, the company says that it now permanently pins system files associated with the boot process into cache, speeding that up substantially. We can confirm that this works; Windows 7 starts up in the time we're used to seeing from popular many popular SSDs. Seagate claims that the algorithm behind this feature identifies and learns boot activity to effectively pin the right data into the flash-based cache. As a result, its effect should be felt on any operating system, including Mac OS X. A quick check with a Windows XP install confirms this. Because boot data is typically executed in the same order over and over (especially compared to user activity), the premise behind this technology makes sense.
    Additionally, writes are now cached as well. Although the write speed of the flash Seagate is using is specified for 100 MB/s (reads are up to 170 MB/s), this could be helpful for speeding up random transfers, which hard drives really struggle with on their own. Unfortunately, we can't confirm the validity of this second addition. Testing a number of different benchmarks, multiple times, didn't reveal any notable performance gains.
    source: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...sd,3116-2.html
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  8. Joined : Oct 2013
    Posts : 17,367
    64-bit Windows 10 Pro build 15007
       2015-08-27 #17

    Ah, I see. Thank you Cliff.

    I'm afraid that I don't know how Fast Startup will affect the drive though.
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  9. Joined : Feb 2015
    Bamberg Germany
    Posts : 12,891
    Microsoft Windows 10 Pro 64-bit 14393 Multiprocessor Free
       2015-08-27 #18

    Now my 2 cents...

    I have found turning off all extras on hardware and letting windows handle everything(I used to swear by RAPID Mode, but now not with windows 10 since it doesn't work on 10 anyhow). With Windows 7 and earlier PCs might have need it. But I found turning of extras increase boot time by a few seconds. No SSD or any other disk can control and speed up the BIOS to CMOS boot portion(which needs time to find and "turn on" everything including other disk hardware), and everything else depends on what programs that run at boot, and I find Windows 10 handles this better than (in my case Samsung Rapid Mode did(also a caching program)). Try turning it off if it's possible on yours and run Fast Startup a week or two. On my SSD, boot time after BIOS is almost instantaneous.
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  10. Joined : Sep 2015
    Posts : 5
    Windows 7
       2015-09-01 #19

    This really helped! Thanks Shawn
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