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  1.    14 Jul 2017 #20
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    64-bit Windows 10 Pro build 17046
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    Hello HollowKnight, and welcome to Ten Forums.

    If you copy and paste the path below into the address bar of File Explorer and press Enter, does it open the TileDataLayer folder?

    %LocalAppData%\TileDataLayer
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  2.    14 Jul 2017 #21
    Join Date : Jul 2017
    Posts : 4
    Windows 10 Home

    Yes
    C:\Users\nguyenc\AppData\Local\TileDataLayer <-- This is user, I want to fix
    C:\Users\NO02\AppData\Local\TileDataLayer <-- This is Local Administrator user
    C:\Users\NO01\AppData\Local <- - This is Temporary Local Administrator User, I created with Intention to copy TileDataLayer\Database to C:\Users\nguyenc\AppData\Local\TileDataLayer. There is NO Folder named TileDataLayer, though NO01's Start Menu Tiles appear and work normally.

    I could run as NO01
    Export-StartLayout -Path Layout.xml but I dont have GPO Edit to import it to nguyenc, because I am using Windows 10 Home Edition.

    Thank you
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  3.    14 Jul 2017 #22
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    64-bit Windows 10 Pro build 17046
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    Odd. You might create another temp account to see if it may have the needed folder after signing in to it.
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  4.    15 Jul 2017 #23
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    Windows 10 Home

    I've done as you suggested but there is no TileDataLayer folder.
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  5.    15 Jul 2017 #24
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    64-bit Windows 10 Pro build 17046
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    In that case, you might give a repair install a try to fix this without losing anything.

    Repair Install Windows 10 with an In-place Upgrade Windows 10 Installation Upgrade Tutorials
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  6.    15 Jul 2017 #25
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    Windows 10 Home

    It's really weird. How MS made Windows a messy trash bin, where their developers can put anywhere pieces of info they'd want to. I am tired of using find + grep to find those files. I've been digging in their technet and other IT Pro forums (now moderated by zero-knowledge guys/gals from anonymous forests in India) but still could not find any useful tips. Needles to say I am 20++ years experienced user of many OSes.
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  7.    4 Weeks Ago #26
    Join Date : Nov 2017
    Portland, OR
    Posts : 1
    Windows 10 Enterprise and Pro

    This is ridiculous. Why does it have to be so hard to return the start layout of existing users to the default layout or update a custom layout? I have attempted the process describe above. But it didn't work.

    In summary, I have created a new user which gets the default layout. Then, using the Administrator account, copied the c:\Users\NewUser\AppData\Local\TileDataLayer\Database folder to the Olduser's TileDataLayer folder. There was no change to the Olduser's start layout.

    I am trying to get a handle on how this start layout works and the idiosyncrasies of it. I'm working on deploying Win 10 to a number of systems in a business environment and I want to deploy a customized start layout. But I came across the issue where it is difficult to change the layout of existing users (without deleting the entire user profile).

    More detail of what I've done: I created a user called RefUser, and modified the Start Layout. Then used the Export-StartLayout, then the Import-StartLayout cmdlets to set a new default layout. I deleted the profile of Refuser and re-logged on and the RefUser got the new start layout as expected. So that works.

    Then I returned the system to the default layout by renaming the file: C:\Users\Default\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\Shell\LayoutModification.xml

    I created a user 'NewUser' and this user was created with the default layout. Refuser still had the modified layout. I used the procedure above and the layout did not change. As a guess, From the Admin acct, I renamed the Database folder and didn't replace it. When I log on, the list of all programs on the left has only system tools, the start tiles only has some of the custom layout display. The active tiles are missing.

    So I haven't gotten to the bottom of how the the start layout is maintained in the user's profiles. And I don't know how to return the existing users to the default or a new layout.

    Any added thoughts would be welcome.
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  8.    4 Weeks Ago #27
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    Dual-boot Win 7 & 10, both Pro 64-bit

    Brink - just actually getting around to this, but I realize I don't understand an earlier detail.

    Above, I asked and you replied as follows:
    Originally Posted by glnz
    Brink - ... will I lose, for example, Start menu links to my recently installed Office 365 Home?
    Finally, do these steps change only Start or also other things, like toolbars or what shows at the bottom?
    Thanks again.
    Hello glnz,
    This will only affect items on the Start screen. This would include items pinned to Start and tiles. It won't affect any links in the Start menu on the left side.
    OK - here's my missing detail and question - What is the difference between "items on the Start screen ... includ[ing] items pinned to Start" and "any links in the Start menu on the left side"?
    Can you show me the kind of thing I will lose ("items on the Start screen ... includ[ing] items pinned to Start") using the technique here?
    Just want to know in advance what I might have to re-do later.

    Thanks again.
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  9.    4 Weeks Ago #28
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    Hello glnz,

    Basically, the right side of the Start menu or Start screen is where apps are pinned to Start at. This is what would be reset.

    The left side or All Apps, is just the list of installed apps on the PC.
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  10.    3 Weeks Ago #29
    Join Date : Aug 2015
    Posts : 90
    Windows 10 Pro

    Quote Originally Posted by Brink View Post
    In that case, you might give a repair install a try to fix this without losing anything.

    Repair Install Windows 10 with an In-place Upgrade Windows 10 Installation Upgrade Tutorials
    Hi,

    Since the upgrade to 1709 yesterday I too am experiencing problems with the start menu. The event log records a "Faulting module path: C:\Windows|ShellExperiences/StartUI.dll" msg every time I left clicked on Start Menu. Ran the Start Menu Troubleshooter from your tutorial & it tells me the "Microsoft.Windows.ShellExperienceHost" and "Microsoft.Windows.Cortana" applications need to be installed correctly.

    Name:  StartMenu2.png
Views: 121
Size:  60.6 KB

    Short story this all lead me here & like HollowKnight I am unable to create a TileDataLayer folder under my new local user account. I created another temp account as you suggested, no luck.
    Am I looking at a How to Do a Repair Install of Windows 10 with an In-place Upgrade as well?
    Would rolling back to the previous version fix it?

    Thank you
    Last edited by dogpark; 3 Weeks Ago at 17:09.
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