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  1.    21 Jun 2016 #10
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    The screenshots under step 3 are for what you will see in Windows 10 (left screenshot) or at boot (right screenshot) while doing this. They're there to help compare the two since it will show differently at boot than in Windows.

    I'm not sure what you mean by "other OS" though. Look at "identifier" under one of your "Windows Boot Loader" sections to see which one is "{Current}". The "description" under that same "Windows Boot Loader" section for will let you know which OS it's for.

    If you like, post your bcdedit here, and I'll be happy to go over it with you.
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  2.    21 Jun 2016 #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brink View Post
    The screenshots under step 3 are for what you will see in Windows 10 (left screenshot) or at boot (right screenshot) while doing this. They're there to help compare the two since it will show differently at boot than in Windows.

    I'm not sure what you mean by "other OS" though. Look at "identifier" under one of your "Windows Boot Loader" sections to see which one is "{Current}". The "description" under that same "Windows Boot Loader" section for will let you know which OS it's for.

    If you like, post your bcdedit here, and I'll be happy to go over it with you.
    Well, I'm not dual booted yet, but I will be putting Linux Mint on soon, so I'll come back. Thanks very much!
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  3.    07 Aug 2017 #12
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    Thanks + a couple of questions


    Thanks Shawn for this useful tutorial After following it - and importantly, also enabling Windows 10's "Fast Start-Up" via Control Panel\Hardware and Sound\Power Options\System Settings ("Choose what the power buttons do") - I am now able to boot straight into Windows 10 without having to make a menu selection - as long as I'm doing so after a Shut Down, rather than a Restart.

    I found that even after following the instructions here, if I have Fast Start-Up disabled, I still get the menu each time. Is this normal?

    But - whenever I choose Restart instead of Shut Down, I'm still presented with the full Advanced Boot Options menu, as per the third image in this tutorial, the 'DOS'-looking one. Is this normal behaviour after a Restart? It doesn't worry me, but I'm wondering if it's supposed to happen.

    It's slightly annoying that the default option is "Repair Your Computer" rather than "Start Windows Normally", since to continue the boot process I then need to press Up Arrow and then Enter, rather than just Enter.
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  4.    07 Aug 2017 #13
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    Hello @Piminy, and welcome to Ten Forums.

    For me in Windows 10 build 16257, I always see the "Windows Boot Manager" screen (1st image) no matter if "Fast Startup" is turned on or off.

    When I press F8, I see the "Startup Settings" screen.

    What Windows 10 build do you currently have installed?
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  5.    07 Aug 2017 #14
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    Thanks, I'm running version 1607, build 14393.1480
    Some extended info if helpful, Build 14393.rs1_release.170706-2004
    It's 64-bit Home edition.

    A bit of extra info too, though it may not be relevant - With Fast Start-Up disabled, I do see the blue/white Startup Settings screen (fourth image in the tute) once only, after having followed the instructions in this tute. On subsequent boots it's replaced by the black/white Advanced Boot Options version (third image). Then, if I re-apply the changes per the tute, I get the Startup Settings screen, but again, only the first time.
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  6.    07 Aug 2017 #15
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    Interesting. Luckily, both "Advanced Boot Options" (old) and "Startup Settings" (new) provide the same options.

    If you like, the latest build for version 1607 is build 14393.1532 below via Microsoft Update Catalog.

    Cumulative Update KB4025334 Windows 10 v1607 Build 14393.1532 - Windows 10 Forums
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  7.    08 Aug 2017 #16
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    Ideally I prefer to wait until MS pushes updates to me via Windows Update, rather than force them, just in case there's some hardware incompatibility or other that they might know about?
    With that in mind, I clicked the Check For Updates button and it installed some, though not that one.
    It's now upgraded me to Version 1607 (OS Build 14393.1593)
    Behaviours still as described above though. No biggie though really - I was just curious as to whether it was normal, and it doesn't affect my day to day usage. I'll re-check after any more updates though.
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  8.    03 Oct 2017 #17
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    Quick update: the 'Creators Update' (Windows v1703) was pushed to my machine last week, and ever since, I no longer get the Advanced Boot Options menu on restarts. (I haven't yet tried enabling it per the instructions in the tutorial - will leave it as-is for the time being, to minimise startup time).
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  9.    03 Oct 2017 #18
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    Hello Piminy,

    Are you able to boot to Advanced Startup using any of the options in the tutorial below?

    Boot to Advanced Startup Options in Windows 10 Installation Upgrade Tutorials
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  10.    04 Oct 2017 #19
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    Yes, happy to! I tried:
    Option 2: Boot to Advanced Startup Options from Power Menu, and from Ctrl+Alt+Del (Shift+Restart in both cases)
    Option 7: Boot to Advanced Startup Options from Command, shutdown /r /o /f /t 00

    Happy to report that in all three cases, I was presented with the blue 'Choose an option' screen. After choosing 'Troubleshoot' there are a few more selections to make, then the PC restarts, and I was presented with the blue 'Startup Settings' screen. No more hard-to-read DOS-style menu, and no more menu at all unless I choose so. I'd guess that all of the other options in that tutorial would work just as well.

    This is now optimal behaviour - thank you!

    I'm only guessing that it was the Creators Update that changed the behaviour on my PC - it certainly happened at the same time I applied that update, but can't say for sure if it would have the same effect on other PCs.
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