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  1. Posts : 1
    Windows 10 Professional x64
       #450

    Silky said:
    So it appears that regardless of whether the default switch is bound to the Ethernet card or the Wireless, I get no internet unless I manually turn on and connect the host to wireless.

    With that in mind, can anyone help me configure Hyper-V to use my default NIC and have internet/network access? I can't believe that I'll have to run Hyper-V with wireless only. Once it's installed on my host, I have no wired network access. I've read through this and several other tutorials on Hyper-V here, and their respective threads looking for some clue about what I may be doing wrong, and frankly....? I can't spot it.

    Thoughts?
    Sadly, I'm having the opposite problem, I don't have a NIC in my laptop, only WiFi, and I can't get the internet work in the VM.

    Actually, after checking on the 'waiting to connect' window after several minutes, it did actually connect to a website, but it takes about 2 mintues to happen, which makes it basically useless.

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  2. Posts : 3
    Windows 10
       #451

    Apologies for coming late to the party. Great host; great nibbles; great conversation. I'm just worried that all the other guests may have gone home by now.

    My interest is primarily in getting a Windows XP system that will run a specific piece of long-defunct commercial software. I now have such a working system. Many thanks to Kari for the excellent tutorials and to various contributors for the subsequent commentary.

    However, before I commit to my solution, there are a few loose ends that I don't yet understand, or feel confident in tackling. Is anyone out there still listening - and, more to the point, interested?
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  3. Kari's Avatar
    Posts : 17,434
    Windows 10 Pro
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       #452

    escat said:
    Is anyone out there still listening - and, more to the point, interested?
    Short answer: Yes.

    Kari
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  4. Posts : 3
    Windows 10
       #453

    Kari said:
    Short answer: Yes.

    Kari
    Hi Kari, many thanks for the prompt reply. By way of background, mine is a home office installation, rather than an enterprise, so Hyper-V may not be the best solution for my requirement: to get a piece of commercial software originally written for Windows 3.1, and last updated for Windows 98, to run on Windows 10. It currently runs in Windows XP mode on Windows 7.

    I have an XP virtual machine running under Hyper-V on W10, thanks to your tutorial. This includes internet access, printing and Remote Desktop Connection - though from another computer rather than the Windows 10 host. My current uncertainties are:

    1) Do I need to do anything about Integration Services?

    2) Can I get the same direct access from the Start Menu to my XP application, that I get with W7 XP Mode?

    3) Although I can get Internet access (via Firefox 52 esr), I don't need it for this application, and it is a security exposure. Nor do I need direct access to any data on the host W10 system, or any other VMs. However, I would like to have access to my network storage devices and printers. I'm currently using an External Virtual Switch. But I'd like to close the security loophole of giving external network access to the XP system that this might create. The machine on which I eventually plan to use Hyper-V has both Ethernet and WiFi connections. So one possibility might be to use one of them for the XP system and the other for everything else on that machine. I could then use my router firewall to block all internet traffic on the former. Can you see any problem with this, or suggest any better alternative?

    4) Finally, the more I've gone into this, the more I'm certain that my requirement is - understandably - some way from the design point of Hyper-V. It seems quite possible that future updates to Windows 10/Hyper-V might undermine this approach. Would I even be better off running Windows XP Mode under Windows 7 under Hyper-V - assuming that's possible?

    Once again, thanks for a superb set of tutorials.
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  5. Posts : 3
    Windows 10
       #454

    Hi Kari, do you have any comments on my post please? Thanks for any help you can give.
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  6. glnz's Avatar
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    Dual-boot Win 7 & 10, both Pro 64-bit
       #455

    Karl and all - I'm late to this game, but hats off to Karl for a superb tutorial and thread! Wow!

    I have Win 10 Pro 64-bit (v 1909), and I might use Hyper-V for the first time in my life to see what v2004 looks like, especially how it changes controls for update deferrals, in a virtual machine first.

    Now, I have an .iso of v 2004, but of course I don't have a separate product key. Is it possible to have the virtual machine install the v 2004 WITHOUT any product key and have it work for some period of time before it stops working? Can I just skip the product key step during installation and play with it for maybe a month?

    Also -- and you can tell I'm a Hyper-V virgin -- how do I get the .iso on my host PC -- it;s actually on a separate drive on my desktop PC -- to be seen by and installable in the virtual machine?

    Thanks.
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  7. Silky's Avatar
    Posts : 75
    Windows 10 Pro
       #456

    I am running 1909 Build 18363.1256, if that matters. Windows update still tells me that "The Windows 10 May 2020 Update is on its way.", if that matters.

    I had Hyper-V installed and working (somewhat) back in January of this year. I uninstalled it because it became a "project" and decided to tackle it later. Now, reinstalling it results in no network connect (to my local network) and no internet connection. The first indication of "no network at all" is that the Notification area of my screen shows the ugly globe indicating no network/internet. Uninstalling Hyper-V restores my network connections and internet. When Hyper-V is installed, the virtual switch it creates is present in the adapter listing. When I try to launch Hyper-V, it is not found - in other words it doesn't appear to be installed on the Start Menu or doing a search, so I can't actually launch it (I am stopped at Step 2.2 of this tutorial).

    How can I troubleshoot this and get Hyper-V working again? I don't know where to look first, so any guidance on what to check would be SO appreciated.
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  8. pparks1's Avatar
    Posts : 1,686
    Windows 10 Pro
       #457

    glnz said:
    Now, I have an .iso of v 2004, but of course I don't have a separate product key. Is it possible to have the virtual machine install the v 2004 WITHOUT any product key and have it work for some period of time before it stops working? Can I just skip the product key step during installation and play with it for maybe a month?
    Yes, there is an option at the install to click which says "I don't have a product key" and you can do just that.

    The other option is to download the Evaluation copy of WIndows 10 Enterprise from Microsoft. It's good for 90 days. The server releases like Server 2012/2016/2019 are all good for 180 days. Then you can setup a lab and play with it for extended periods of time.

    glnz said:
    Also -- and you can tell I'm a Hyper-V virgin -- how do I get the .iso on my host PC -- it;s actually on a separate drive on my desktop PC -- to be seen by and installable in the virtual machine?
    When you setup a new virtual machine, you can point to that iso file (where ever it is) and it acts like a virtual DVD/CD drive in the virtual machine and you install from it. So, you can just say, my DVD iso is in F:\isos\Win10version.iso and turn on the VM and it can boot from that iso.
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  9. pparks1's Avatar
    Posts : 1,686
    Windows 10 Pro
       #458

    Silky said:
    I
    I had Hyper-V installed and working (somewhat) back in January of this year. I uninstalled it because it became a "project" and decided to tackle it later. Now, reinstalling it results in no network connect (to my local network) and no internet connection. The first indication of "no network at all" is that the Notification area of my screen shows the ugly globe indicating no network/internet. Uninstalling Hyper-V restores my network connections and internet.
    So, I think you are saying that with HyperV installed, your host computer (your main WIndows 10 physical machine) is now losing it's connection to the network and the internet.

    If the above assumption is correct, I "assume" you have created an "EXTERNAL" virtual switch and you haven't check the box that says "allow to share this connection with the management machine". < Or something to that effect. I'm not sitting in front of my box at the moment. That box needs to be checked if you want your local computer to keep functioning on the network and to the Internet as you always have.

    If you just want to play with VM's, you can skip creating an EXTERNAL switch all together and just use the Default Switch. With the default switch, any VM you create will automatically NAT through your host machine and will have access to your network and the Internet. Just go ahead and delete the "External" Switch that you created.

    Let me know if this gets you going.
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  10. Silky's Avatar
    Posts : 75
    Windows 10 Pro
       #459

    pparks1 said:
    So, I think you are saying that with HyperV installed, your host computer (your main WIndows 10 physical machine) is now losing it's connection to the network and the internet.

    If the above assumption is correct, I "assume" you have created an "EXTERNAL" virtual switch and you haven't check the box that says "allow to share this connection with the management machine". < Or something to that effect. I'm not sitting in front of my box at the moment. That box needs to be checked if you want your local computer to keep functioning on the network and to the Internet as you always have.

    If you just want to play with VM's, you can skip creating an EXTERNAL switch all together and just use the Default Switch. With the default switch, any VM you create will automatically NAT through your host machine and will have access to your network and the Internet. Just go ahead and delete the "External" Switch that you created.

    Let me know if this gets you going.
    No, not quite correct. It's probably a terminology thing interfering with my description - my bad. For the sake of clarity, the current state of affairs is as follows.

    I install Hyper-V and restart. Once I log into Windows with my PIN, I am at a stopping point and these two symptoms occur:

    1. No network at all - this means that I have a globe in the notification area; no local LAN resources are communicating (192.168.x.x); adapters listed from control panel include a new virtual switch (default) and my NIC (realtek) - so the installation of Hyper-V installed a virtual adapter.
    2. Hyper-V was not installed - this means that I can neither start nor locate the Hyper-V Manager APP; not listed in start menu, Windows Key followed by typing "Hyper-V" only list files from my previous (January 2020) installation.


    So I can't launch Hyper-V Manager at all, so I uninstall it. The reboot resulting from the removal results in my network being available again, both local LAN and Internet access.

    Edit: Added images to help explain what happens after installing Hyper-V below
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    Last edited by Silky; 20 Dec 2020 at 10:11. Reason: Added images to describe the problem
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