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  1. Posts : 1,871
    W10 pro x64 20H2 Build 19042.610

    Steve C said:
    I didn't grab the build since it very quickly auto updated to 10586.63. I created a new USB via the Media Creation Tool yesterday (14 Jan) so I have the most recent USB installation version.

    By the way - do I need the following drivers listed on Dell's web site when using a single Samsung EVO 850 SSD in my laptop?

    • Intel Rapid Storage Technology Driver
    • STMicro Free Fall Sensor Driver
    The free fall sensor relates to a conventional drive so no, its not relevant.

    As to the rapid storage... well I would let Windows (am I really saying this lol) do its thing before you consider adding what could be out of date drivers from Dell. I recently did a clean W10 install onto a new SSD on a Dell Vostro and the only missing driver was for the card reader. See what Windows does first. If something isn't working only then try the driver.

    For interest I would suggest run the Windows assessment tool as well. From an elevated command prompt enter,

    C:\Windows\system32>Winsat formal -restart clean

    My results were spectacular for a laptop,
    Disk Sequential 64.0 Read 520.86 MB/s 8.1
    Disk Random 16.0 Read 466.50 MB/s 8.2
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  2. Posts : 11,062
    Windows 10 Pro version 22H2 0n one desktop and running Window 11 Pro 22H2 on unsupported desktop

    Hello Shawn look I am going to give it one more try because it seems Microsoft is turning up the wick under the 7 system pot - but on a drive that has none of my previous 7 stuff on. I have an ISO on a disk I made sometime ago and I don't know what build it was probably quite old. My query is when I install that ISO how do I activate it?
    I have read through your tutorial but it is all USB stuff and from what I can gather the activation can only be for an upgrade?? unless I have read it wrong somehow. I could use a stick but I am not really a fan of booting from sticks but will if I have to.

    What is your advice on my best course of action.
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  3. Posts : 70,036
    64-bit Windows 11 Pro for Workstations
    Thread Starter

    Hello John,

    You could use the method in the tutorial below to directly clean install Windows 10 without having to upgrade to it for the free offer. :)

    Clean Install Windows 10 Directly without having to Upgrade First
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  4. Posts : 134
    Windows 10 PRO

    Clean installed system on my MSI GS60 2PE laptop and no needed Secure or Fast Boot to be disabled. Don't knew the right key to get into Boot menu yet (as well as what an UEFI, a Fast and Secure Boot is), so I went into BIOS and simple changed from Windows Boot Manager in first place to USB in first and WBM in second, rebooted and the installation from USB has begun. After files copying and after restart, it didn't started from my SSD but from USB again and wanted to start install from zero so I needed to close installation in the language menu and switch back from USB in first to WBM to continue installation. Everything went well and correct, I guess and hope so.

    Checking my partitions in Windows there is no MSR so it's a little bit strange. There are Recovery 450MB, EFI 100MB and Primary. They didn't even showed up after choosing unallocated space and click on next.
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  5. Posts : 18,454
    Windows 11 Pro

    bl00keRs said:
    Checking my partitions in Windows there is no MSR so it's a little bit strange. There are Recovery 450MB, EFI 100MB and Primary. They didn't even showed up after choosing unallocated space and click on next.
    You have to use a third party program such as MiniTool Partition Wizard to see the MSR partition.
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  6. Posts : 369
    Windows 10 x64 Pro 22H2

    Well... for people that is new installing a Windows OS (specially from Vista onwards), while it may sound silly, I found that Windows can be installed in a logical partition... yes you can, and the only requirement is to have the System Reserved partition, formatted, active and clean.

    So basically, is anyone want's to test on a virtual machine, or own system (assuming you wanna wipe out the entire disk and you have backupped everything you want), the steps are simple, @Brink made a tutorial about using diskpart while in the Windows Install Enviornment... ths means, as soon as Windows Installer asks for language and keyboard support, hit SHIFT+F10 to get a command prompt window, then:

    - Type DISKPART, wait for it to load
    - Then you type "list disk", see which one is the choosen one (BE careful if you got more than one local disk, it's better to have just one while installing windows)
    - Select the disk that you want with "sel disk #" command, while # is the number of the disk to wipe and partition (for example, 0)
    - Then type "clean", hit enter
    - Then type "create partition primary size=500" to create the system reserved partition, hit enter.
    - Then type "format fs=ntfs label="System Reserved" quick", hit enter
    - Type "active", hit enter.

    Now you got the system reserved partition, all boot files and WinRE.wim will be installed there (Windows 8/8.1/10 installs the Windows Recovery Enviornment there instead of the C: drive, like it used to be in Vista and 7, quite convenient...). Next, we create an extened partition and logical... Asuming your disk has 120GB in this example...

    - Type "create partition extended", hit enter
    - Type "create partition logical size=XXXXXX", hit enter, XXXXXX can be any number in MB to assing a size... let's say we want to split the rest of the 120GB into two 60GB parts for the OS and documents or data... so you can say those XXX read 61440.
    - Type "format fs=ntfs label="Windows 10" quick", hit enter
    - You got now, the logical partition Wndows will install into... for the data partition:
    - Type "create partition logical", hit enter (this takes the rest of the space to use the full disk finally)
    - Type "format fs=ntfs label="Data" quick", hit enter
    - Type "list part" and you may 4 partitions (3 real) if you follow this exactly
    -- Partition 1 (System Reserved)
    -- Partition 0 (Extended)
    -- Partition 3 (Windows 10)
    -- Partition 4 (Data)
    - If everything looks right, type "exit" two times to exit diskpart and cmd, now, when choosing disk to install Windows, make sure you select the one that you labeled "Windows 10", or the label you gave to your logical OS partition, wait for the installer to finish, and Vualá! Windows installed on a logical partition (take that, Linux! XD... Just kidding)

    Ah... some annotations:
    * Commands go without "", but the "label" command use that when you set names with spaces, for example:
    --- label="Data Disk"
    * This serves as a guide, you can change sizes or names to anything that suites your needs
    * If you have a modern OS already installed (Like Windows 7), you already got a System Reserved partition, but it's too small for OSes like 10 to use, to avoid getting another one (Windows 10 does that if insuficient space, so you get 2 recovery partitions... ugly, huh?) you need to extend the size of this partition, with tools like Minitool Partition Wizard (the most reccomended, others can corrupt the MBR and GUI ID's for partitions... nasty...), set it to 500MB and then create a logical partition for your Windows to install (for example if you intend to do a dual boot, like I did).

    Basically, correct me if I sound stupid, but seems that Microsoft created the concept of a recovery partition so you could have more than 3-4 Windows versions installed on your system, this way, you only need one primary partition for booting files and BCD, while the rest can be solely logical (although, this only aplies for modern OSes, like Vista and onwards, XP simply refuses to work this way since it only creates one primary partition, and the OS and boot files are stored all in the same place).

    If I'm late with this discovery, dumb or simply redundant... you can slap me :P
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  7. Posts : 11,062
    Windows 10 Pro version 22H2 0n one desktop and running Window 11 Pro 22H2 on unsupported desktop

    Hello Shawn I am going to give this system one more go and have at last made an ISO from TechBench as you advised me before to clean install instead of upgrade - something I did try but again broadband is stalling that too (plus ISO's at where I live).

    Anyway I probably have asked before but just to make sure I have it right - if I use the ISO on the machine I originally used the upgrade on wil there be an activation code left behind by that upgrade? If so will the clean install self/auto activate or will I have to find that code some other way?

    I will not be back home for a while in case you rpely and I don't right away.

    Edit Just found your last post to me
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  8. Posts : 70,036
    64-bit Windows 11 Pro for Workstations
    Thread Starter

    Hello John, :)

    Yes, the PC will have a digital entitlement on Microsoft activation servers that should activate the clean install for you.

    To be safe, I would still recommend to get the product key to have in case you do need to enter it.
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  9. Posts : 6
    Windows 7 U x64

    Hello Shawn,
    I want to clean install Windows 10 x64 with full UEFI support. Should i enable/disable some items in BIOS (UEFI) such as CSM or so?
    P.S. I can boot from USB with "Fast Boot" enabled; Dont really know how to disable "Secure Boot" on the Maximus VIII Hero...
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  10. Posts : 70,036
    64-bit Windows 11 Pro for Workstations
    Thread Starter

    Hello KotTHECat, and welcome to Ten Forums. :)

    Yes, you could disable CSM if you like. The most important part is that you have UEFI enabled and Secure Boot disabled in your UEFI firmware settings, and that you select the UEFI USB (Windows 10 installation USB) in your boot menu.

    You may have to go through your UEFI settings until you find the one for secure boot, but the tutorial below can help with disabling secure boot.

    Secure Boot - Enable or Disable in UEFI
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