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  1. Night Hawk's Avatar
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       05 Sep 2015 #200

    Actually the only plug I pull is for the data cable itself since once that is unplugged any volumes on it are no longer accessible to avoid any mishap. With four drives on the first of two I used that option multiple times leaving the side panel off and reaching in while the machine is powered down while I suppose I could still hot swap since they are sata drives.

    It never hurts anything simply when leaving the power cord in for this while that be the preferred option since no signals are being sent to a drive when the data cord is unplugged. If the Integrated Peripherals section in the Bios Setup shows it being set for Native IDE you would generally go with the MBR option since the GPT is generally used for drives over 2tb in size if not for server type set ups.

    Having the bios set for Native IDE and not AHCI also allows you to boot from optical media when the burn to dvd option is selected on the Media Creation Tool when downloading 10. One the main build here when having switched over to the AHCI setting I found I could no longer boot from anything on cd or dvd and had some problems with usb boots as well. Once changed back to the first everything boots fine!

    That will be important when not opting for the usb type media and going for broke with a dvd burn and finding you can't boot up from the disk where you may think the burn was bad if not the blank disk while the bios setting will be at fault.
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       10 Sep 2015 #201

    Night Hawk said: View Post
    Actually the only plug I pull is for the data cable itself since once that is unplugged any volumes on it are no longer accessible to avoid any mishap. With four drives on the first of two I used that option multiple times leaving the side panel off and reaching in while the machine is powered down while I suppose I could still hot swap since they are sata drives.

    It never hurts anything simply when leaving the power cord in for this while that be the preferred option since no signals are being sent to a drive when the data cord is unplugged. If the Integrated Peripherals section in the Bios Setup shows it being set for Native IDE you would generally go with the MBR option since the GPT is generally used for drives over 2tb in size if not for server type set ups.

    Having the bios set for Native IDE and not AHCI also allows you to boot from optical media when the burn to dvd option is selected on the Media Creation Tool when downloading 10. One the main build here when having switched over to the AHCI setting I found I could no longer boot from anything on cd or dvd and had some problems with usb boots as well. Once changed back to the first everything boots fine!

    That will be important when not opting for the usb type media and going for broke with a dvd burn and finding you can't boot up from the disk where you may think the burn was bad if not the blank disk while the bios setting will be at fault.
    Reading more about Clean Install and GPT.
    thanks to all.
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  3. Night Hawk's Avatar
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       10 Sep 2015 #202

    You're welcome there! acmanten Hope it goes well for you. Just be sure to read through each step and you shouldn't run into any problems. The worst offender that will prevent even an upgrade install as well as a planned clean install will be having an extra drive plugged in!
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  4.    13 Sep 2015 #203

    Thank you for this excellent tutorials!

    I was upgrading from 8.1 yesterday, and did the clean install today on my desktop. No problems at all, except for a few steps where my brain took a siesta....
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  5. Brink's Avatar
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       13 Sep 2015 #204

    I'm glad it was able to help Ingridina, and welcome to Ten Forums.
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  6. Night Hawk's Avatar
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       13 Sep 2015 #205

    The original upgrade over the clone of 7 as well as later seeing fresh 7 with SP1 install actually upgrade to 10 wouldn't have taken place except for Step #2 in this guide!

    2. Temporarily disconnect all non OS hard drives until Windows installation has finished. This is to avoid Windows Setup from installing files on other hard drives by mistake.
    I've been meaning to suggest updating the other Upgrade to 10 guide about this being an important factor. Even with the MC tool's first option for the immediate online upgrade install that attempt failed while still having those two drives I told you about earlier plugged in. I later found the boot files on one drive and the "$Windows~BT" and "$Windows~WS" folders on the other!

    I can't say for sure whether having additional drives plugged during the repair install will see the same problem come up however since for that seen with the first upgrade here I went in and unplugged the drives a second time when the first upgrade came out buggy. The second system wasn't a problem since that only had the one 7 drive in it until I set the dual boot up restoring an image of that 7 install onto the drive added in later. Always a relief seeing a clean install go on however!
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       13 Sep 2015 #206

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  8. acmanten's Avatar
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       14 Sep 2015 #207

    Night Hawk said: View Post
    You're welcome there! acmanten Hope it goes well for you. Just be sure to read through each step and you shouldn't run into any problems. The worst offender that will prevent even an upgrade install as well as a planned clean install will be having an extra drive plugged in!
    Night Hark
    Thanks for each of your comments and help. My system update is coming along and I am learning about it as I do the changes.
    It is activatied and I have done a clean update. Now working on add a new SSD.
    Thanks Cliff M.
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  9. Night Hawk's Avatar
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       14 Sep 2015 #208

    Good to hear!

    Thanks for getting back in here to update the thread on the results. I know I got tripped on Day One when not having previously had the chance to install the 10 TP builds to a physical drive to see where the problems would come up and had to get back in here and look at this guide to see the upgrade work. Just remember that one you get your new SSD in that one of those drives if not seeing a dual boot going will need to be unplugged.
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  10. acmanten's Avatar
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       15 Sep 2015 #209

    Night Hawk said: View Post
    Good to hear!

    Thanks for getting back in here to update the thread on the results. I know I got tripped on Day One when not having previously had the chance to install the 10 TP builds to a physical drive to see where the problems would come up and had to get back in here and look at this guide to see the upgrade work. Just remember that one you get your new SSD in that one of those drives if not seeing a dual boot going will need to be unplugged.
    yes, and thanks. I only have one hd inside the computer of my Acer i5 5600u (Drive C 1TB. I have had the Acer about 3 years now and no problems at all with that desktop. I will later put the new 500GB Samsung EVO SSD in there to replace it. My another Toshiba 1TB is outside in a separate case that I connect via USB. Those are the two I have been using with minitool and Macrium. I do also have a 4tb backup drive but not using it much yet... I may re-partition some of it later when I learn more about how to do that... Thanks for all... and remember that somewhere on this website .....(I saw it but am unable to find it now) .. it says something like "the only bad questions are the ones that are not asked".... and I really appreciate.

    I am sure there are several like myself... and users here.... wanting to ask . . .

    Thanks so much for your time, and all the info you Cliff M.
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