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  1. Posts : 3,358
    W10 Pro x64/W7 Ultimate x64 dual boot main - W10 Pro Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64 - remote pc
       03 Aug 2015 #120

    That's correct! I imagine you could run the tool a few times after a system restart or two if not immediately trying to upgrade in order to grab the other edition Home or Pro, not Home N or Pro N for home use in the US for sure in case you have another system that will need or run the other of the two choices. What that means if you are 7 Home Premium, 8, or 8.1 you wouldn't be stopped from downloading the Pro or Pro N edition.

    BUT! And this is the important thing to remember the type of questions you are asking here are already covered on the FAQ page regarding things like the difference between the 32 and 64bit Windows as well is the media bootable seen at FAQ as well as finding answers on Q&A page for things like the Upgrade Chart that shows which edition you pick depending which edition you have on a system for a previous version you are trying to upgrade. Windows 10 FAQ Tips - Microsoft

    Question & Immediate Answer:
    What edition of Windows will I get as part of this free upgrade?



    When you upgrade, you’ll stay on like-to-like editions of Windows. For example, Windows 7 Home Premium will upgrade to Windows 10 Home.



    Windows 73


    From Edition To Edition
    Windows 7 Starter Windows 10 Home
    Windows 7 Home Basic
    Windows 7 Home Premium
    Windows 7 Professional Windows 10 Pro
    Windows 7 Ultimate

    Windows 84


    From Edition To Edition
    Windows Phone 8.15 Windows 10 Mobile
    Windows 8.16 Windows 10 Home
    Windows 8.1 Pro Windows 10 Pro
    Windows 8.1 Pro for Students


    “N” and “KN” editions follow the upgrade path of the parent edition (e.g., Windows 7 Pro N upgrades to Windows 10 Pro N).
    Some editions are excluded: Windows 7 Enterprise, Windows 8/8.1 Enterprise, and Windows RT/RT 8.1. Active Software Assurance customers in volume licensing have the benefit to upgrade to Windows 10 enterprise offerings outside of this offer.





    That explains for 7 Starter, Home Basic, and Home Premium editions you can only upgrade free of charge as long as the 7 installation is geniune to the correct edition of 10 being 10 Home! Same goes for 8 Home seeing 10 Home as well as for 8.,1 Home. The combination disk with then simply see the option to upgrade to either the 32bit or 64bit 10 Home while booted in the previous version or boot live and then choose which flavor!

    The same applies for the 10 Pro edition upgraded over 7 Pro or Ultimate, 8 Pro, or 8.1 Pro. Once you select the one edition then you choose which kernel or both 32/64 for the download to begin for either immediate upgrade or installing 10 at a later time. If you go for the Home edition due to having 7 HP for example on the first machine and have another 7 Pro or Ultimate system you want to upgrade but might not have internet connection or for an 8.1 mobile device like Windows Phone for example you then would run the tool again in order to save the iso for the other edition if not making up the media on the spot.

    Actually I used a utility I downloaded for seeing 7 put on flash drives back in 2009 I used again for seeing 10 media made up! The tool besides being a media creation tool being provided by MS for those without any such program is also the method MS put inplace other then direct by Windows Updates to see 10 downloaded. You can still use another dvd burning program as well as some other USB tool to get the task seen to.
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  2.    03 Aug 2015 #121

    Dude I'm well aware of the upgrade path that is W7/8.1 Home/Core to W10 Home and W7/8.1 Ult/Pro to W10 Pro. But thanks anyway.

    How about Windows 10 32-bit UEFI install? Does Windows 10 32-bit supports UEFI install now? or is Windows 10 32-bit still only works for CSM / legacy BIOS install?
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    64-bit Windows 10 Pro build 16241
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       03 Aug 2015 #122

    son goku said: View Post
    How about Windows 10 32-bit UEFI install? Does Windows 10 32-bit supports UEFI install now? or is Windows 10 32-bit still only works for CSM / legacy BIOS install?
    If you're motherboard supports UEFI 2.0, then it will support 32-bit and 64-bit UEFI installations.

    The older UEFI 1.0 standard only supported 64-bit.
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    W10 Pro x64/W7 Ultimate x64 dual boot main - W10 Pro Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64 - remote pc
       03 Aug 2015 #123

    Shawn I think a good number of people are unfamiliar with just what UEFI is. Unified Extensible Firmware Interface may be a mouthful for people at times and the following should help with that.

    The UEFI Specifications define a new model for the interface between personal-computer operating systems and platform firmware.
    For full documentation on 1.0 as well as 2.0, everything inbetween and newer even they can always refer to Specifications | Unified Extensible Firmware Interface Forum


    Right at the TechNet Windows site you can also look over more on this.

    What is UEFI?

    When the PC starts, the firmware interface controls the booting process of the PC, and then passes control to Windows or another operating system.

    UEFI is a replacement for the older BIOS firmware interface and the Extensible Firmware Interface (EFI) 1.10 specifications.

    More than 140 leading technology companies participate in the Unified EFI Forum, including AMD, AMI, Apple, Dell, HP, IBM, Insyde, Intel, Lenovo, Microsoft, and Phoenix Technologies. For more info, see UEFI specifications.
    more at: UEFI Firmware
    Last edited by Night Hawk; 03 Aug 2015 at 11:06. Reason: Additional reference
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  5.    04 Aug 2015 #124

    Brink said: View Post
    If you're motherboard supports UEFI 2.0, then it will support 32-bit and 64-bit UEFI installations.

    The older UEFI 1.0 standard only supported 64-bit.
    I mean Native UEFI install of Windows 10 32-bit on Desktop PC/laptop with intel core i3/5/7 or its AMD equivalent based processors?

    To be more concise, if for instance your PC has a
    system specs of:

    • CPU: Intel Core i5 2310
    • RAM: Kingston HyperX 4Gb
    • GPU: Nvidia GeForce GT530

    Now, would a Windows 10 32-bit Native UEFI install supported or work with this PC (without enabling CSM/legacy BIOS mode)?
    Last edited by son goku; 04 Aug 2015 at 04:00.
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    W10 Pro x64/W7 Ultimate x64 dual boot main - W10 Pro Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64 - remote pc
       04 Aug 2015 #125

    Does your desktop/laptop support booting live from a usb flash drive? If you look in the advanced options in the bios setup do you see the option to set USB HDD as first in the boot order or bring up the boot menu with an F key and scroll to find the USB HDD item? That will show right off if the board itself has the native support since the options are present and you simply proceed at first tending to the upgrade if not already done and then onto booting live from the usb install key you either made up with the Media Creation tool or like here with a 3rd party ISO burning/writing program that can make the iso download bootable as it writes it to a flash drive.

    Anything earlier then 1.0 which is not good and would need to be turned off in the bios setup long enough to see 10 installed would be EFI which is Legacy orientated while now we see 2.0+ which has made life a bit easier for us all! Windows 10 already is well past what 9x, ME, 2000, and XP saw where those older versions needed additional driver support in order to get anywhere. Just with the mention of the socket type for the cpu you run you should be set to go by simply following the steps in the guide here.
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  7.    04 Aug 2015 #126

    Nervous about deleting partitions!


    Hi all! A little info: I have Legacy hardware, and have upgraded to Win10 (from 7) and shows activated. I've clean installed win7 a few times in the past. After the upgrade to 10, I noticed (in Disk Manag.) I now have 4 partitions on disk 0 (Recovery, sys reserved, C: win10 and another recovery). I've never deleted partitions while re-installing OS, I always thought that was something you would need to fix up in disk manager first (aside from formatting C, which I always did while re-installing).
    I've read the instructions you posted here, and aside from deleting the partitions it all sounds like what I've done before.
    The deleting the partitions is what is terrifying right now! LOL I guess it's just because I've never done that, but I would like a nice clean install. Can anyone here give me some re-assurance (about the warning messages I'm sure to get), and let me know if there is a particular order I should follow when deleting the partitions? Also, I'm concerned I won't be able to delete the partitions... when I'm in disk management, the 2 recovery partitions don't give any menu options (except help).
    Any advice is greatly appreciated! Thanks! Anne B
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    64-bit Windows 10 Pro build 16241
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       04 Aug 2015 #127

    Hello Anne, and welcome to Ten Forums.

    I would recommend to backup anything that you do not want to lose to be safe.

    You can delete the partitions during Windows Setup in step 12.
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  9.    04 Aug 2015 #128

    Brink said: View Post
    Hello Anne, and welcome to Ten Forums.

    I would recommend to backup anything that you do not want to lose to be safe.

    You can delete the partitions during Windows Setup in step 12.
    Brink! Thank you for such a fast response!
    Okay... anything that isn't in the cloud is saved on an external hard drive.
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    64-bit Windows 10 Pro build 16241
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       04 Aug 2015 #129

    Please let us know how it went.
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