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  1. Ex_Brit's Avatar
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    Win7 Ult + Win10 Pro + Win10 Enterprise - all x64
       14 Jun 2018 #750

    Thanks Shawn. So there's no way to remotely repair Win 10 at all. I guess I'll simply format and reinstall that one then.
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  2. Brink's Avatar
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       14 Jun 2018 #751

    I'm not aware of a way when it won't boot into it.
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  3. Ex_Brit's Avatar
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    Win7 Ult + Win10 Pro + Win10 Enterprise - all x64
       14 Jun 2018 #752

    What a bummer that 10 had to be so different....oh well, I am reinstalling a fresh copy as we speak. I managed at least to make a DVD that included the Anniversary Edition so at least updating will be slightly less painful....I hope.
    I’m typing this on my iPad. LOL
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  4.    30 Jun 2018 #753

    I consider myself reasonably computer literate (like many people who actually are not!), but recent updates to Win 10 and my attempts to fix the ensuing network problems lead me to tinker with my main desktop to the extent that it became damn nearly unusable.

    I've always been terrified of any kind of Windows reinstall, for fear of losing stuff which isn't backed up or which would take an age to get set up again (yes, I know it should all be backed up, but...), but I came across your guide to doing an "in place" reinstall which was so well set out and confidence-inspiring that I gritted my teeth this afternoon and did it.

    Magic – all problems resolved and I can now see the other PCs and even my Win XP laptop can see my main PC (despite the problems that recent updates have brought to that scenario). And as far as I can see, nothing is broken as a result.

    So – message to the faint-hearted – follow this guide carefully, and have a go if you feel you are wasting too much time trying to fix things scientifically. Just take this sledgehammer, and crack that nut.
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  5. f14tomcat's Avatar
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    Triple boot - Win 10 Pro, Win 10 Pro Insider (2) - (and a sprinkling of VMs)
       30 Jun 2018 #754

    Ozpeter said: View Post
    I consider myself reasonably computer literate (like many people who actually are not!), but recent updates to Win 10 and my attempts to fix the ensuing network problems lead me to tinker with my main desktop to the extent that it became damn nearly unusable.

    I've always been terrified of any kind of Windows reinstall, for fear of losing stuff which isn't backed up or which would take an age to get set up again (yes, I know it should all be backed up, but...), but I came across your guide to doing an "in place" reinstall which was so well set out and confidence-inspiring that I gritted my teeth this afternoon and did it.

    Magic – all problems resolved and I can now see the other PCs and even my Win XP laptop can see my main PC (despite the problems that recent updates have brought to that scenario). And as far as I can see, nothing is broken as a result.

    So – message to the faint-hearted – follow this guide carefully, and have a go if you feel you are wasting too much time trying to fix things scientifically. Just take this sledgehammer, and crack that nut.
    That's a good point to make, thank you. Far too often, what you refer to as the "scientific" approach induces more damage than it's worth, making errors harder to find. A reasonable attempt to fix problems is the first choice, of course, but at some point the time and effort expended, with no real assurance "you got it all!", makes a repair install the best choice. Use the best tool for the job.

    TC
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  6. Kari's Avatar
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       30 Jun 2018 #755

    Ozpeter said: View Post
    So – message to the faint-hearted – follow this guide carefully, and have a go if you feel you are wasting too much time trying to fix things scientifically. Just take this sledgehammer, and crack that nut.
    Welcome to Ten Forums Ozpeter. Let me start with saying that as a Ten Forums geek to the core of my existence, I like the fact that you obviously joined us just to say thank you. I respect that.

    I think one word in your post is the key to successfully fix your issues: carefully.

    Author of this tutorial, our admin @Brink who has written over 95% of our over 3,000 tutorials (tutorial index) is known to write easy to follow, precise tutorials. The key to fix issues following a tutorial is to carefully follow the instructions given, step by step.

    Quite often users simply decide that "oh that step must not be so important" or begin a process without first reading the full tutorial, then post about instructions not working for them.

    Following instructions exactly as written most often help users to fix their issues. That's the key, to do exactly as told.

    I am happy to hear you got your issues resolved. Enjoy being on Ten Forums!

    Kari
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  7.    30 Jun 2018 #756

    Thank you gentlemen (or ladies, why not?!) for your welcome - indeed I did post chiefly to say 'thank you' but inadvertently I didn't actually say that in those words! Over the next few months if not years I will be reading the rest of the tutorials - if not for immediate use, then at least so that when encountering future problems I'll know what to do, or at least where to look.
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  8.    30 Jun 2018 #757

    Kari said: View Post
    Welcome to Ten Forums Ozpeter. Let me start with saying that as a Ten Forums geek to the core of my existence, I like the fact that you obviously joined us just to say thank you. I respect that.

    I think one word in your post is the key to successfully fix your issues: carefully.

    Author of this tutorial, our admin @Brink who has written over 95% of our over 3,000 tutorials (tutorial index) is known to write easy to follow, precise tutorials. The key to fix issues following a tutorial is to carefully follow the instructions given, step by step.

    Quite often users simply decide that "oh that step must not be so important" or begin a process without first reading the full tutorial, then post about instructions not working for them.

    Following instructions exactly as written most often help users to fix their issues. That's the key, to do exactly as told.

    I am happy to hear you got your issues resolved. Enjoy being on Ten Forums!

    Kari
    So true about following steps precisely.
    Recently on another forum, I was leading a guy through diskpart and said type following:-

    diskpart

    list disk

    select disk n (n=drive number)

    and guy replied "how do I do select disk n"

    I said type it exactly as written, substituting 0,1 etc for n as appropriate.

    He replied he did not know how to type that and he needed help.

    I replied "press letter s, then letter e......"!

    Then he replied, he typed n and it did not like it. Groannnnn!

    Of course we naturally instruct users to follow instructions exactly as written. However, one cannot legislate for all users actually being capable of doing so!
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  9.    30 Jun 2018 #758

    On the theme of following instructions relating to computers - or not - I can't resist posting this link to a legendary story, just in case younger readers don't know it -

    FACT CHECK: Too Stupid to Own a Computer

    And there's the one where a computer user called support (in the days of floppy disks) to report that the backup program was asking him to insert another floppy in the drive, but he couldn't fit any more in there. Apparently as it didn't say to take the previous disk out, he'd just kept jamming more into the slot. (Impossible, but a good story).

    And now back to the topic, before I get thrown out of here already!
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  10.    04 Aug 2018 #759

    I just learned something about USB drives that I had not realized. They don't all work as boot media. I don't know if this is relevant to the repair install, since that takes place from within Windows 10. It would only matter if the USB used in the process is needed to reboot, say when the repair install initiates some restarting. I am guessing not. Otherwise, I think there would need to be some instructions/ reminders that the bios needed to be set to boot first from the USB.

    I discovered this when creating Rescue media for the Macrium Reflect backup program. I found that a brand new Lexar USB stick would not boot on my Panasonic CF-SX2. That same model Lexar drive boots on a Dell XPS 13. I can USB boot my Panasonic with a Sandisk USB and with an Adata USB. Further readings on the internet show this is not uncommon.

    Just to eliminate some variables, the Lexar that won't boot and the Sandisk that will are both formatted as Fat32. I don't change the bios to boot legacy devices. It is at its default UEFI setting.
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