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  1.    10 Aug 2016 #70
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    Has the anniversary update made any changes to the behavior of the Device Installation Settings Yes/No setting? (like making it actually work?)
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  2.    10 Aug 2016 #71
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    Hello Oubadah,

    No changes. If you wanted to disable drivers from being available in Windows Update, then the method in the tutorial below would be best.

    https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/4...dows-10-a.html
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  3.    14 Aug 2016 #72
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brink View Post
    Hello Oubadah,

    No changes. If you wanted to disable drivers from being available in Windows Update, then the method in the tutorial below would be best.

    https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/4...dows-10-a.html
    I think it would be a good idea to acknowledge somewhere in this article that the Device Installation Settings setting does not reliably prevent drivers from being installed. The way you have it presented makes it look like Device Installation Settings: No and SearchOrderConfig 0 are two ways to achieve the same outcome, but they are not.

    For example: set Device Installation Settings: No and attach a Logitech peripheral device. Logitech drivers and Logitech Download Assistant bloatware will immediately be silently installed (and later, ironically, Windows will notify you about startup programs impacting system performance, and the "high impact" bloat it lists will be the Logitech Download Assistant it installed). Connect a Razer peripheral and the Razer Synapse driver/bloatware will immediately be downloaded. SearchOrderConfig 0 actually prevents that from happening, while Device Installation Settings: No does nothing.

    And by the way, that new Do not include drivers with Windows Updates gpedit setting is similarly unreliable. I still see drivers listed in WU (eg. Intel IGP driver), just less of them.

    EDIT: Is SearchOrderConfig 0 in the registry the same as setting Specify search order for device driver source locations to Do not search Windows Update in gpedit (Computer Configuration/Administrative Templates/System/Device Installation/Device Installation)? It seems to have the same effect.
    Last edited by Oubadah; 15 Aug 2016 at 03:15.
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  4.    15 Aug 2016 #73
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    Oubadah,

    Some drivers are included with Windows 10, and are automatically installed if the supported device is connected. This is outside of Windows Update.

    Could be a bug for why some drivers are still available via Windows Update even though the policy below is set to not allow it.

    https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/4...dows-10-a.html

    Quote Originally Posted by Oubadah View Post
    EDIT: Is SearchOrderConfig 0 in the registry the same as setting Specify search order for device driver source locations to Do not search Windows Update in gpedit (Computer Configuration/Administrative Templates/System/Device Installation/Device Installation)? It seems to have the same effect.
    SearchOrderConfig in OPTION TWO is a different way to set Device Driver Installation settings. The separate group policy you mention affects the same setting, but overrides whatever is set it Device Driver Installation instead.
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  5.    15 Aug 2016 #74
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brink View Post
    Some drivers are included with Windows 10, and are automatically installed if the supported device is connected. This is outside of Windows Update.
    I know, but none of the settings I'm talking about have anything to do with that. Even Device Installation Settings refers explicitly to "downloading" manufacturer software.*

    Quote Originally Posted by Brink View Post
    Could be a bug for why some drivers are still available via Windows Update even though the policy below is set to not allow it.
    Yes, I think you're right.

    Quote Originally Posted by Brink View Post
    SearchOrderConfig in OPTION TWO is a different way to set Device Driver Installation settings. The separate group policy you mention affects the same setting, but overrides whatever is set it Device Driver Installation instead.
    My point is that I don't think SearchOrderConfig has anything to do with Device Installation Settings (aka. Option 1 in this article). SearchOrderConfig and the GP I mentioned both have an identical effect, while Option 1 doesn't seem to affect driver installation at all.

    *In fact, if you look at the wording of Device Installation Settings, it no longer even mentions drivers.

    It used to say "Choose whether Windows downloads driver software... and detailed information..." in the Hardware tab of system properties, and then when you clicked into the actual setting the wording was "Do you want to automatically download manufacturers' apps and custom icons...".

    Now it uses the "manufacturers' apps and custom icons" language in both the Hardware tab of system properties and when you click into the setting itself. There is no mention of "drivers" anywhere, which makes perfect sense to me because in my personal experience the setting never did squat to prevent driver installation:

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    You can see the wording is now different to your screenshots in Option 1.

    People have been promoting Device Installation Settings: No as a solution to Windows 10 driver installation since the OS was released. Every build I've tested it, and it's never has any perceivable influence on driver installation. Now the revised wording seems to support my experiences.
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  6.    15 Aug 2016 #75
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    I'm thinking "Manufacturers' apps" is just another way of saying software or drivers though.
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  7.    15 Aug 2016 #76
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brink View Post
    I'm thinking "Manufacturers' apps" is just another way of saying software or drivers though.
    Can you give me one example of a driver that will install with Device Installation Settings=Yes, but not Device Installation Settings=No?
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  8.    15 Aug 2016 #77
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    I'm not 100% sure on this either anymore, and is why I recommend the other tutorial below for the newer policy to disable allowing drivers to be available in Windows Update instead.

    https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/4...dows-10-a.html
    Last edited by Brink; 15 Aug 2016 at 22:58.
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  9.    21 Jul 2017 #78

    I had to roll back my graphics driver to get cod modern warfare remastered to work properly , its stuttery mess with new drivers. The last set of working drivers is from march. Everytime time i booted up my pc windows would install a newer driver it was literally driving me insane 😂 this script saved whats left of my hair , thanks 😆

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  10.    21 Jul 2017 #79
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    I'm glad it could help Archie.
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