New 11th Gen Intel Core S-series 'Rocket Lake-S' desktop processors

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  1. Posts : 1,481
    Windows 10 Pro 64bit 20H2 19042.844
       #20

    Yeah Gigabyte board, No 11th Gen support with this current board, already checked on that, is sorta tempting a little bit to go ahead and upgrade to Rocket Lake, and then get the newer cooler.

    Temps average sometimes 85c-90C *sometimes seen as high as 96c, also depends on room temp etc, so far this year, highest seen was 90c, last summer temps seen as high as 99-100C a couple times** when actively gaming, with the stock Thermaltake V200 RGB Case fans, and 1 Rear 120mm exhaust.

    Generally not many issues with the board at all, seems to work very well for my needs

    Just gonna try to save some funds, til decide if just getting cpu cooler upgraded on this Comet Lake S, or grabbing a Rocket Lake S, and newer board that supports it
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  2. Posts : 4,187
    Windows 11 Pro, 22H2
       #21

    Submitted my response too quickly. I meant to comment on your note about dust cleanouts.

    I always make sure that I very carefully setup my cooling so that I have positive pressure in the case. In other words, there is a larger volume of air being pushed into the case than is being pushed out. Do this and make sure that the inlet fans all have good quality dust filters.

    Whenever I setup a system like that, even after a year of running 24 x 7, I can barely see any sign of dust in the system. What little dust there is I can easily blow out with a blower in no time flat.

    It's well worth the effort to setup proper air flow.
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  3. Posts : 1,481
    Windows 10 Pro 64bit 20H2 19042.844
       #22

    Well right now got 3 Intake Fans, ((not sure how much air they intake really)), and 1 120mm exhaust at the moment, sadly this case doesn't feature a front dust filter, only dust filters got is underneath the PSU intake, and Top Of case magnetic one.

    As for Rocket Lake S may still decide to go for one, Gigabyte came out with a Version 2 of my board, with a changed chipset to support 11th Gen, so i'd still have to spend on that plus the processor if i decide to upgrade
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  4. Posts : 4,187
    Windows 11 Pro, 22H2
       #23

    AMDMan2016 said:
    Gigabyte came out with a Version 2 of my board, with a changed chipset to support 11th Gen
    That's a shame. You may want to keep your eyes on their web site. A lot of the 400 series MBs will support Rocket Lake with only a firmware update. Those FW updates are expected to come out right about the time that the CPUs officially ship (March 30).

    While we're on the topic, does anyone have a clear grasp on what the 11th gen i9 actually buys you over the i7? I know that there is a tiny boost in peak speeds with the "Thermal Velocity Boost" feature of the i9, but all the speculation so far seems to be that the performance difference between i7 and i9 is negligible.

    It ticks me off that Intel put an embargo on full reviews until March 30th, but it sounds to me like I might not really gain much by going i9 rather than i7. When the final performance reviews come in I may actually change my specs to an i7, but here is currently what I have spec'd out for my new build:


    Motherboard: ASUS Prime Z590-A
    CPU: Intel 11th Gen i9-11900K (may decide to go with i7-11700K instead)
    CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 chromax.black
    RAM: 128 GB Crucial Ballistix RGB 3200 MHz DDR4 DRAM (4 x 32GB)
    Storage:
    > Seagate FireCuda 520 1 TB Gen 4x4 NVMe SSD
    > Seagate FireCuda 520 2 TB Gen 4x4 NVMe SSD
    > Samsung 870 QVO 8 TB SSD
    > Western Digital WD80EFAX 8TB NAS HDD (Qty. 2)
    PSU: Corsair HX850i
    Chassis: Corsair iCUE 5000X RGB
    Fans:
    > Corsair SP Elite RGB 120mm fans (Qty. 3 - these came with the case)
    > Noctua NF-S12A chromax.black.swap fans (Qty. 7)
    TPM: ASUS 14-pin SPI TPM
    WiFi: WiFi 6E / Bluetooth 5.2 PCIe adapter
    Thunderbolt 4: ASUS has announced their adapter card, but it is not released yet. Awaiting release.
    Monitor: TBD - Will use an HP Envy 32 for now (32 inch, 2560 x 1440)
    Mouse: Logitech MX Master 3
    Keyboard: Corsair K100 with the optical-mechanical key option
    TRENDnet TEG-S380 8 port Ethernet switch to support the built-in 2.5Gbps networking

    Note that no GPU is listed. I'm not a heavy gamer currently so the integrated graphics will do for now or I may just drop in an Nvidia 1070 for now.
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  5. Posts : 516
    Windows 10 Enterprise
       #24

    Thermal Velocity Boost will engage when you are running below 70c. I had opted for the 10600k because price wise vs performance the 10600k was clear winner. I might do just as you mentioned and sell my 10600k for a 11700k or wait end of 20h2 and see how much the 11900k will lower on black Friday.
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  6. Posts : 2,068
    Windows 10 Pro
       #25

    hsehestedt said:
    While we're on the topic, does anyone have a clear grasp on what the 11th gen i9 actually buys you over the i7? I know that there is a tiny boost in peak speeds with the "Thermal Velocity Boost" feature of the i9, but all the speculation so far seems to be that the performance difference between i7 and i9 is negligible.
    Honestly, that's my opinion of most upgrades that aren't at least 2-3 years apart. Going from 10th Gen, or maybe to 11th gen....honestly probably isn't going to make much of a noticeable difference for most people. You might be able to "prove" a difference in a benchmark, but in real world day to day......it's a lot less noticeable.

    For example, my son has a Ryzen 7 3800x, and I have a Ryzen 9 5900x. I'm on a 5000 series, and I have 4 more cores....but for the OS, most apps, gaming, etc.....there really isn't that seat of the pants improvement from an upgrade standpoint. I would not consider "upgrading" him from a 3000 series to a 5000 series Ryzen. Others however would look at this and go, "Dude, going from a 3000 series to a 5000 series is a no-brainer...you gotta upgrade.....even pay scalper price because the difference is unreal".

    My previous desktop built for myself was from 2009. A core 2 quad Q9550, with 8GB of DDR4-800 RAM. I had been using my son's Core i5-6500 with 32GB of DDR4-2400 that he had previously when we upgraded him to his Ryzen 7 3800x. So, for me, going to the 5900x was a night and day difference. And I gave the Core i5-6500 build to my daughter, who now has a Windows 10 machine to go with her 12" macbook.

    Upgrades are a rat race, and you always end up behind at some point. I understand we are all enthusiasts and I'm not intending to stop anybody from going from 10th Gen to 11th Gen. But if you simply cannot do it and you are feeling down about it....don't worry so much....you probably aren't going to notice anything substantial...especially if you don't focus on the benchmark leaderboard.
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       #26

    hsehestedt said:
    When you split up a USB port into so many seperate ports with a hub the problem becomes that you are splitting up the available bandwidth as well. Not a problem if you have a number of fairly slow devices, but for high speed devices you want to be judicious in how many you are connecting to a single root hub.
    I own a 'mini version' of a MAID that is essentially just a pile of external HDDs giving me 37TB in total. My HDDs don't need to keep spinning all the time for me, as they contain a media library, and, I am the only one who uses it now and then.
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  8. Posts : 406
    Windows 10 21H1
       #27

    I've built a 10-gen machine just recently (went with 10600K), so I'm unlikely to switch to the 11-gen. My previous build was around i5- 3570K, I bought that in 2012. That's not to say that I didn't keep upgrading the PC over the years (GPU, SSD, etc.), but the CPU worked perfectly well for a bit more than 80 years and still sold on eBay in no time. Not that I'm planning to keep this one for that long, but I'm clearly not in a hurry to upgrade .

    Now, in my current setup, with 10600K, the CPU temperature is 24 C just now, motherboard 31C, so I'm not sure where do people get 100C from ...
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  9. Posts : 516
    Windows 10 Enterprise
       #28

    Man, 24c, that's really low. What are you using? I don't know either were people are getting the high temp thing either. I'm running at average 35c
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  10. Posts : 1,481
    Windows 10 Pro 64bit 20H2 19042.844
       #29

    I'm just using Intel Stock Fan that Shop installed in my Thermaltake V200 RGB Case for my 10700 Last june


    Light Load type game open right now, Secondlife with 3rd Party Firestorm viewer, goes higher with other games at times


    That is with Thermal Power Limit on in UEFI bios trying to keep them under control til i can decide which cooler i wanna get and attempt to install it or wait til i can get it back to shop and have them install a better cooler than Stock one


    Noob with Cooling a bit still, if i do get a Rocket Lake S, i'd probably have shop build it again possibly
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    Last edited by AMDMan2016; 23 Mar 2021 at 18:23.
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