U.S. States Would Like to Break Up Google

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  1. Posts : 11,210
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       #10

    Compumind said:
    In the USA - but also applies elsewhere -

    1) They made a huge mistake by having 3rd party sellers be marketed. No counterfeit goods. Everything should be Shipped and Sold by Amazon.
    2) Amazon is helping to quickly destroy brick and mortar retail sales as we know it by dramatically undercutting price om many items.
    3) Bezos is the richest man in the world and does not pay their employees very well for their very hard work, IMHO.
    4) Sometimes, you don't know what you are getting with electronics - like revision levels. Some items just sit in their warehouses.
    5) The company has their hand in too many things - like food, drugs, etc. Like a monopoly.

    Hey, I use them myself!

    Hi there

    A fair comment -- but if you destroy something like this you have to build up infrastructure to replace it --online trade / e-commerce is not going away

    Actually Amazon doesn't kill a load of small businesses any more -- probably the biggest draw back to small businesses are repressive taxation and regulation -- especially if "bricks and mortar" type businesses i.e primarily not online are rapacious business rates (taxes) and rent based not on turnover or profitability but purely on the notional value of the premises the business is trading from -- so a Lamborghini showroom could be paying the same business rates / tax as a small business next door selling a few home made bakery products !!!. That's hardly Amazon's fault.

    In any case loads of people would never go back to basic "Bricks and Mortar" type shopping any more -- why should they - especially in those jurisdictions which have ludicrously out of date shopping hours for Q1 in C21 .

    Amazon BTW do a lot of "Click and collect" deliveries with places like supermarkets so even if you are working you can pick up your orders from a Supermarket / other facility where you enter a code into a storage locker and pick up your goods.

    It's not 100% perfect -- nothing ever is - but I'd hate to be in a world having to go back to 1970's style shopping.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  2. Posts : 5,829
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       #11

    Everybody loves to hate and bash big corporations while forgetting we're the ones who created them
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  3. Posts : 11,210
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       #12

    sygnus21 said:
    Everybody loves to hate and bash big corporations while forgetting we're the ones who created them
    Anyway for me +1 for Amazon

    Remember also it took years before that company became profitable --and who cares if he's the richest man on the planet --he at least isn't building / buying Nuclear weapons or dirty Nuclear power stations. !!!

    Cheers
    jimbo
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       #13

    jimbo45 said:
    Anyway for me +1 for Amazon
    I ain't mad at Jeff Bezos. And I've been an Amazon shopper since 2000
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       #14

    jimbo45 said:
    Hi there
    How can Amazon be the real threat

    It's been an absolute "Life saver" for loads of people while the Corona Virus lockdowns were in place --- do you for 1 micro second think any other company could have organised the massive deliveries etc required during this time.

    And if you are in the US -- what about Alibaba (Stock epic code BABA) that's still traded on US exchanges -- chinese equivalent of Amazon - but even makes Amazon look like a Freeway Panhandler by comparison --owned by a Chinese national and operates similarly to Amazon in China.

    Decent business is decent business --who these days needs to go to boring shopping Malls with "clone chain shops" and probably don't have what you want-- plus rapacious parking charges, town centre panhandlers and beggars, risk of getting caught up in street demos,shootings, muggings, stabbings etc etc etc.

    Amazon isnt whiter than the pure driven snow but Id rather even in a really safe country like Iceland use them for a load of shopping while going out to town for decent experience things such as restaurants, bars, saunas, swimming etc etc.

    Cheers
    jimbo
    I get your reasoning but, meanwhile the local businesses that make our communities vibrant and desirable places to live in - and run run by many of our friends and neighbors - are collapsing under government directives and orders that day by day are seeming to have been based on extremely poor data. The result is that the mega-businesses survive and the local business die. And the politicians just keep on keeping on...while paying lip service to the "working class" and coming 'round for their vote every election cycle.

    So, once again, governments around the world use "plausible" reasoning (since that makes for good media "optics") based on now emerging discovery of massively erroneous modeling data to justify - or rather "excuse" - the financial crushing of the average guy...

    That pretty well summarizes the issue I have with "reasonable"...and Amazon...
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  6. Posts : 5,829
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       #15

    Here's a news flash.... Amazon didn't get big by itself. If you want the neighborhood stores to survive you'll have to change the consumer's mindset. Currently we want variety, availability, and competitive pricing. If Joe local doesn't have that, I'm taking my money elsewhere.

    That's the mindset of the consumer in the microwave world we live in. When I go to my local best buy and they don't have the items (in-store or online) I need to build my dream PC I'm looking to that mega-store that has everything, including expedited shipping. That's Joe Consumer 2020.

    Anyway, this is "Google"... not whether Amazon is putting ma & pa stores out of business
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  7. Posts : 11,210
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       #16

    Hi there

    your anger should be directed at Govt etc -- as you say it's them and not people like Amazon that are causing problems.

    In a lot of places outside USA small businesses / local shops etc have been doing quite well in the present situation -- decent small busineses will always survive --boring chain stores etc which don't offer any experience to local communities don't deserve to survive in any case -- and who really would regret having far fewer disgusting fast food places and loads of litter louts all over the place.

    As for google --you don't have to use it -- Duckduckgo for example is a good alternative -- and remember google employ a load of people - how would you easily replace even a fraction of those jobs.

    As for building home pc's etc even a large mega store is unlikely to have all the bits you need in stock --then there's the problem of getting there, parking, bringing the stuff home etc -- those big megastores also don't add to local communities diversified shopping etc in any way at all either.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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