Headphone Amp to powered speakers

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    Ok guys/gals,my new cables finally arrive today. A monster mobile audio 3.5mm 1.2m and the other
    is Monoprice 22awg 3.5mm 1m cable.
    The third one which i already had is Qed connect 3.5mm 1.5m cable. This 3 cables are mild sounding when using line level out on my creative soundblaster z and T40. It's only good for music listering at best with the 1m length cable. When i plugged them into my soundblaster z headphone amp. My speaker come to live with high playback capability. The best game/music playback result is still the monoprice 1m cable. High playback capability, faithful reproduction
    with nice and accurate tone and vocal even at 30 feets away from my speakers. My audio/sound setup is finalize.
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       #32

    Read your sound blaster z manual, does it say that to get better sound on your speakers, plug it into the headphone hole? NO. Does it say that to use cables less than 1m in length? NO

    And all your talk about buying headphone amp is crap. Go and look at the Schiit headphone amp. The front of the headphone amp is the headphone jack. The back of the headphone amp is the speaker out jack. And if you read the Schiit headphone amp manual, it will tell you that the speaker out doesn't use the headphone amp, it uses the preamp.

    Headphone Amp to powered speakers-s1.png
    Headphone Amp to powered speakers-s2.png

    You got fooled by the basic thing. Human hearing will always "think" louder is better. Which is why we have the loudness war.

    LOUDNESS SOUNDS BETTER. Itís Also Ruining Music.

    Which is why when mixing engineers in recording studios do EQ, they "level match" to prevent their brain being fool. If they EQ a sound, the sound gets either louder and quieter. So they have to either decrease or increase the volume by the exact amount in order to compare the before EQ and after EQ to see if the EQ actually sound better, or is it making it worse.

    Level Matching Transformed My Mixes
    – Mastering The Mix




    Your brain fooled you on sticking the 3.5mm jack into the headphone hole would sound is better because your brain will always think louder is better.
    Last edited by sandyt; 17 Mar 2023 at 09:08.
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    sandyt said:
    Read your sound blaster z manual, does it say that to get better sound on your speakers, plug it into the headphone hole? NO. Does it say that to use cables less than 1m in length? NO

    And all your talk about buying headphone amp is crap. Go and look at the Schiit headphone amp. The front of the headphone amp is the headphone jack. The back of the headphone amp is the speaker out jack. And if you read the Schiit headphone amp manual, it will tell you that the speaker out doesn't use the headphone amp, it uses the preamp.

    Headphone Amp to powered speakers-s1.png
    Headphone Amp to powered speakers-s2.png

    You got fooled by the basic thing. Human hearing will always "think" louder is better. Which is why we have the loudness war.

    LOUDNESS SOUNDS BETTER. It’s Also Ruining Music.

    Which is why when mixing engineers in recording studios do EQ, they "level match" to prevent their brain being fool. If they EQ a sound, the sound gets either louder and quieter. So they have to either decrease or increase the volume by the exact amount in order to compare the before EQ and after EQ to see if the EQ actually sound better, or is it making it worse.

    Level Matching Transformed My Mixes
    – Mastering The Mix




    Your brain fooled you on sticking the 3.5mm jack into the headphone hole would sound is better because your brain will always think louder is better.
    @sandyt, you have been faithfully responding to my threads and also been resourceful and compassion showing me
    guides. Thank you for your patient and i am a tobacco leaf and fruits only consumer, i don't think much even when playing
    audio music/software games.
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       #34

    Actually, it is the opposite --- you think too much and that's how you got into spending money on useless cables, distorting your sound and making it worse.

    What you are hearing is just bad audio distortions because you send too much voltage to your computer speakers. Those headphone amps on your lists have separate speaker outs that don't use the headphone amp.

    It is called the fletcher munson curve, your brain is fooled by "louder is better" and "louder is richer and fuller".

    But if you actually stick that audio signal into a spectrum analyzer, it will tell you that all you have is just distortions because you send the audio signal into the headphone amplifier (that it did not need to do) and then send it to the computer speakers (that cannot handle such a high voltage signal) and caused the computer speaker to clip.

    Fletcher Munson Curve: Easily Understand in 5 Minutes | Parlours Music

    If you don't touch the signal and just plug the sound blaster speaker out into your computer speakers, you would have a cleaner audio signal (because it didn't go through an extra amplifier), and the proper voltage is sent to the computer speakers and the computer speaker would operate within its designed voltage parameters.
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    sandyt said:
    Actually, it is the opposite --- you think too much and that's how you got into spending money on useless cables, distorting your sound and making it worse.

    What you are hearing is just bad audio distortions because you send too much voltage to your computer speakers. Those headphone amps on your lists have separate speaker outs that don't use the headphone amp.

    It is called the fletcher munson curve, your brain is fooled by "louder is better" and "louder is richer and fuller".

    But if you actually stick that audio signal into a spectrum analyzer, it will tell you that all you have is just distortions because you send the audio signal into the headphone amplifier (that it did not need to do) and then send it to the computer speakers (that cannot handle such a high voltage signal) and caused the computer speaker to clip.

    Fletcher Munson Curve: Easily Understand in 5 Minutes | Parlours Music

    If you don't touch the signal and just plug the sound blaster speaker out into your computer speakers, you would have a cleaner audio signal (because it didn't go through an extra amplifier), and the proper voltage is sent to the computer speakers and the computer speaker would operate within its designed voltage parameters.
    A bit of discovery when looking at my soundblaster z control panel. Image 1 show that
    show headphone when speakers were plugged in. Image 2 show the playback device
    as speaker with adjustable volume. Therefore my soundblaster z does support headphone amp to
    powered speakers, of course not all soundcard/on board sound chip are able to.

    Headphone Amp to powered speakers-screenshot-1-.png

    Headphone Amp to powered speakers-screenshot-2-.png
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       #36

    Read your manual, it doesn't do what you think it does.
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       #37

    Update: my first audio music play session with such setup. Format is 16.bit 44.1khz wav,
    the artist is Cai Xin Juan.

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  9. Posts : 282
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    @NavyLCDR, thank you, i will consider it as i already installed plenty of ferrite magnetic cores on optical modem, router and Lan
    cables.
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