Formating CD for Old Standalone Player

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  1. Posts : 5,827
    Win 11 Pro (x64) 21H2
       #31

    fireberd said:
    One thing to keep in mind. An MP3 is "something less than full fidelity". Converting to wav does not restore the fidelity, it will still be at whatever the MP3 was.
    muchomurka said:
    I thought it is clear however it is better to clarify:
    Import from m4a (directly from yt source) was made. Some amplifying without clipping. Export to wav. Nothing more. I know how to manipulate digital sound.
    You're missing fireberd's point. Creating a wave file from an MP3 file isn't going to get you a "better" file, only a bigger one.

    You can't improve the quality of the MP3 by simply converting to wave file because the information in the MP3 file is all that you're getting. So yeah... all you're doing is creating a bigger file for some drive to hold.
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  2. Posts : 913
    CP/M
       #32

    You did not read carefully my posts. I already prepared a ready-to-burn CDDA image without need of mp3; yes I know the source m4a from youtube is lossy itself so no further degrading operations were made. (But in this particular case - an low-quality record of human speech - it is relatively unimportant.) Ffmpeg codec mentioned in my post was used exclusively for importing m4a file to audacity, not for coding to mp3. And reason of exporting to wav was necessity for creating the CDDA image directly, using free software & without need to burn a physical CD and then rip it back. Is it clearer now?

    Maybe fireberd replied to some earlier post, it is not sure.

    Still curious whether mikeincousa will follow post #16 sometime...
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  3. Posts : 2,309
    Windows 10
       #33

    Post #16 is no use to the original poster who does not understand the basic difference between an Audio CD (CD-DA, Red/Orange book), and a Data CD which is suitable for .MP3 or .WAV files.

    ImgBurn is not suitable for what is a simple task, far too many confusing options.

    CDBurnerXP is far easier to use, and will create either type of Disc from the source which I assume is either an .MP3 file, or .WAV file.

    Option 1 for a Data Disc and Option 3 for an Audio CD.

    Very old Audio CD players may not read Data discs(MP3 or WAV files), or indeed burned Audio CD (Orange book, CD-R or CD-RW). The burned ones have a lower reflectivity dye layer, rather than the manufactured compact discs which consist of "lands" and "pits" of high reflectivity.
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  4. Posts : 913
    CP/M
       #34

    Post #16 is no use to the original poster who does not understand the basic difference between an Audio CD (CD-DA, Red/Orange book), and a Data CD which is suitable for .MP3 or .WAV files.
    That is why I already prepared & sent him a link to download a ready-to-burn BIN/CUE CDDA image. And because CDBurnerXP does not handle true CDDA images, other burning software must be used.

    ImgBurn is not suitable for what is a simple task, far too many confusing options.
    Four clicks:
    Write image file to disc
    Please select a file (select a .cue sheet)
    Write speed (select 4x)
    Write

    CDBurnerXP is far easier to use
    Proved by OP's attempts, isn't it? But if you think... I don't care anymore.
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  5. HeM
    Posts : 389
    Win 10 Pro x64 v.21Η2
       #35

    muchomurka said:
    ...But if you think... I don't care anymore.
    Oh no my friend! Please don't be discouraged... Your knowledge is always useful, for sure!
    What @Helmut is trying to say, I think, is that we should not confuse users if we realize that they are 'beginners' on something. What you've suggested is absolutely right but difficult for a novice to follow.

    BTW, what @Helmut states:
    Helmut said:
    ...Very old Audio CD players may not read Data discs(MP3 or WAV files), or indeed burned Audio CD (Orange book, CD-R or CD-RW). The burned ones have a lower reflectivity dye layer, rather than the manufactured compact discs which consist of "lands" and "pits" of high reflectivity.
    ...is true and sometimes it can be faced by using recordable, dedicated to Audio CDs (not for Data), burning it with a low burn speed (i.e. 4x or even less) and of course, that's always depended on the CD material has been used by manufacturer.
    Last edited by HeM; 20 Jul 2020 at 07:48.
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  6. Posts : 913
    CP/M
       #36

    Maybe I'd write more specifically "I don't care anymore what Helmut writes" and add some smile
    Neverthless, all what I intend is already done & written (& explicated I really hope...), now it is up to other people. Good luck.
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  7. Posts : 444
    Windows 10
       #37

    IŽd try BurnAware > Audio CD (accepts MP3, WAV, WMA, OGG, M4A, AAC and FLAC audio formats).
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