Latest Realtek HD Audio Driver Version [2]

I'm sorry if I contributed to this hubbub in the first place. I was simply asking if he had a way of reducing his workload so that there aren't pages and pages of people asking about which one they need for their system. And a centralized post / website would have helped - anyone could be referred to that post and see the instructions that needed to be performed, where to look for what information, etc., reducing the clutter here.

But yeah. Sometimes it's best to hold it in.

johngalt said:

I'm sorry if I contributed to this hubbub in the first place. I was simply asking if he had a way of reducing his workload so that there aren't pages and pages of people asking about which one they need for their system. And a centralized post / website would have helped - anyone could be referred to that post and see the instructions that needed to be performed, where to look for what information, etc., reducing the clutter here.

But yeah. Sometimes it's best to hold it in.

I agree John but some oeople post with a "holier than thou" attitude which is bound to rub people up the wrong way.

@sandyt

The fact that you keep attempting to tell everyone here that your attitude is the moist sensible is what is causing the remarks such as 'holier-than-thou' attitude, dude. And, I'm gonna be frank - I'm blunt AF with people in my daily life - it's my reputation. You've got that same exact streak that I do - you tell it like it is and have no qualms about what you're saying. I get it. I really do.

However, both your and my methods are sometimes, for lack of a better word, abrasive to others because they perceive, for whatever reason, that you and I, in our respective situations, are being holier than thou, or overbearing, or snobbish, or any of a number of other things that people feel. I didn't get it at all when I was younger - I get it now (though I almost always still disagree with the person feeling that, because I'm telling it like it is - no bones, no mincing of words, no beating around the bush).

There's plenty of people in here who have seen me dish out (and some that have even been on the receiving end of) one of my soliloquies, directed not in hate, but in a seemingly heavy-handed attempt to convince people that they are 1) not thinking about things clearly, or 2) being lazy (yes, I have directly accused people of doing that, even here) or 3) just flat out being apathetic, and my purpose almost always is to make sure that everyone else reading what someone has written does not take the information to heart as if it is the only answer / the best answer / the easiest answer, when in fact they are actually looking for the correct answer.

So, yeah, I do get exactly what you're saying, and what you've said numerous times, back to the days when I was actually active in the topic.

But you gotta face it - no matter how you look at it, and no matter what you *meant* to convey, sometimes the way you write things comes across as all of those negative things I mentioned above. I know this because I am the exact same way - ask half the people in these forums. I can probably name 4 or 5 who've blocked me simply because they thought I was being overbearing and rude to them, when in fact I was merely making sure that others who read their posts did not get the wrong idea(s).

A lot of people do not understand that when they post erroneous information in a forum post, and it gets read by someone with less experience, they may take that information to heart as good info when it is, in fact , not sot good / not the best, or it is a substitute answer / an alternate method. Yes, you're right, in that the best official way is probably to see what MUC has - but you, I suspect, are much more technically minded than some of the folks that come to visit these forums.

Yes, some of them are technically savvy. Even more so than I am. Some are every bit as savvy as I am. Some are slightly less. Some much less savyy. Some are the equivalent of novice users. Some are, for lack of a better word, pure n00bs. And some are at the level of people I know, who don't even realize when they cannot log into a machine simply because the CAPS lock is on.

So, when I asked Mokichu if he had a website or a post / thread somewhere to help mitigate the numerous repeated requests for information / files / downloads / advice, I meant that one that catered to all sorts of people - from the die-hard coders to the technologically savvy (like me) to the grandmothers and grandfathers out there that need their hands held to do things the right way.

You're posts, while technically correct, are words telling people what to do - no showing, no pics, nothing, which already strikes a warning flag with users who are not used to what the MUC even is, much less just how friggin' variable the results in it even are. Just as Mokichu would benefit from having a dedicated post / thread with detailed instructions, including pics, caveats, warnings, and the like, so would you and your desire to see everyone using the right method to keep things official. Another advantage of having a dedicated post or thread would be that you could easily restructure the information / the structure / the diction used to make it less demanding / imperative and more of a suggestion. As you would only link to it versus having to type everything over and over, less chance for typos, less chances to rush things and convey and idea or feeling that you never intended to, etc.

But here is the deal-breaker - not everyone in here is a n00b. Or novice, or largely less savvy than I am. Many in here are also every bit as technologically savvy as you are, as I am, even more so - and there are here because they have already made the conscious choice to use whichever method they have chosen to update their drivers. And to them, also, you're coming across as overbearing, because I look at your post just above this and I see "This is the only way to do it every other way is pathetically stupid, because logical is the only way." You could just as easily have said "Hey, don't forget - unless you already know for a fact that other methods will not work for you, there are alternative methods that might be of more interest to you if your only desire is to update the underlying RealTek drivers for your device - see my thread at XYZurl"

No mention of logic, no telling people that they should automatically agree with you (because the alternative would be to admit being illogical), no gripes, nothing - I'm willing to bet everyone who spoke against you in the past day or two would look at what I wrote, and agree - they would have had 0 problems with it. Some, maybe many, would even have appreciated such an approach.

What do you say, maybe, just a little, tone down the "this is the only way to do it" vibe, and perhaps instead of being so deterministic, perhaps being a bit more suggestive might ease the tensions in here?

There is a 50% chance you're going to blow this off, and a 50% chance you'll actually read and take to heart what I've written. But I can make this last statement with pretty definitive certainty - the folks here irritated with you are not irritated because of your information - just your presentation.

Again, I know this because I'm just like that also. Though I have been trying to work on it in my later years here.

My position has been rather consistent. We are trying to help people with problems --- sometimes WE ARE THE WORST ENEMY creating more problems than solving them. I am prudent and rather not create any more problems than necessary. Some of you like to just winging a "solution" out of thin air. If your solution doesn't work and create more problems, you people just vanished, leaving the helpless high and dry. If these people are my haters, then I gladly accept them as the world would be a safer place without their "help".

Have anyone of you ever see me winging a "solution" out of thin air?

You people think that I have an "holier than thou" attitude with a alpha dog complex. I am not trying to win an argument for the sake of winning an argument. I just don't want people stuck at home without the ability to skype family and friends.

Quote:

"More problems are created by us "helping" people blindly. He doesn't have audio problems. He doesn't know what's he is doing. We are all in isolation. We "helping" him will probably screw him up so badly that he can't even skype other people."

Not controlled by a realtek driver?

Quote:

"As you said it yourself that you were moving a million variables at once, I suggest do things a tiny step at a time. And create restore points at every single point.

You want to make your computer work with normal audio and microphone --- you are stuck at home and you need the ability to skype with other people. You need to be able to go back to that if asio4all goes sideways on you."

Latency issue (Realtek, Sony sound bar, 'Rocksmith 2014')

Quote:

"Eventually, you will find someone who doesn't know what they are talking about, giving you some kind of vaguely worded advice, and you are going to follow them because you don't know any better.

And you are going to end up without any sound, or without the use of microphone --- so you are going to be stuck at home without the ability to skype with family and friends."

Speakers (3- Realtek(R) Audio)

Can't we just stick to DRIVERS and PROBLEMS with them? Pretty please with sugar and cherry on top !!!

pietcorus2 said:

" stick to DRIVERS and PROBLEMS "...........PLEASE , do so !
Or else this forum is not mine anymore ..........

I suggest making a thread about life philosophy somewhere else, could be enlightening

Please