1.    16 Mar 2017 #1
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    Is there a way to copy a Metro app from Win 10 to Win Server 2016?


    I'm curious if there's a way to copy this PDF app that I have installed on my Windows 10 machine to Windows Server 2016 Essentials?

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    PS. I need a simple PDF viewer on this Server machine, but I don't want to install Adobe or some other third party Win32 software. UWP apps are more secure since they run in a sandbox container. Thus my question.
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  2.    17 Mar 2017 #2
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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmd View Post
    I don't want to install Adobe or some other third party Win32 software. UWP apps are more secure since they run in a sandbox container. Thus my question.
    I am sorry but your only reasonable choice is to use a Win32 PDF reader application. As soon as a Windows Server has been made a domain controller, possibility to use local accounts is gone. You simply can't have a Windows Server OS running as a domain controller with local accounts. All Server sign-in accounts must be server admins (built-in admin) which makes using UWP impossible.

    Using Windows Server just as an OS, not a domain controller makes no sense. Although it is possible to create local accounts and it would be theoretically possible to sideload an UWP app on a local account when Server OS is not a domain controller, I can't understand why anyone would like to do that?

    If server is not used as a domain controller, you make it easier to use just a regular Windows 10 Pro or Enterprise as OS on your server. This of course would also allow you to use UWP apps.

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  3.    17 Mar 2017 #3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kari View Post
    All Server sign-in accounts must be server admins (built-in admin) which makes using UWP impossible.
    Hmm. That is interesting. Because the start menu and the settings app in Server 2016 Essentials are by themselves UWP apps.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kari View Post
    Using Windows Server just as an OS, not a domain controller makes no sense.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kari View Post
    you make it easier to use just a regular Windows 10 Pro or Enterprise
    First off, it's not a full fledged server. I'm talking about Server 2016 Essentials.

    Then why would I use it with local accounts instead of Windows 10 Pro -- these major issues with 10 Pro:

    (1) Forced updates.
    (2) AppLocker.
    (3) Full VM support. (Otherwise I need to pay additionally for VMWare Workstation.)

    If they added all that to Win 10 Pro, I'd be fully on board.

    Then, why do I not use Win 10 Enterprise? Can you tell me how much does it cost to get a single copy? And also where to download it?
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  4.    17 Mar 2017 #4
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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmd View Post
    Hmm. That is interesting. Because the start menu and the settings app in Server 2016 Essentials are by themselves UWP apps.
    Hmm are you trying to be clever? Hmm of course Settings app have to work. It's the one and only exception.

    As I said, UWP apps do not work with built-in admin account, meaning you cannot use UWP apps in Windows Server when it is used as domain controller.


    Quote Originally Posted by ahmd View Post
    First off, it's not a full fledged server. I'm talking about Server 2016 Essentials.
    That is a server OS, same rules apply to it than to other Windows Server editions.


    Quote Originally Posted by ahmd View Post
    Then why would I use it with local accounts instead of Windows 10 Pro -- these major issues with 10 Pro:

    (1) Forced updates.
    (2) AppLocker.
    (3) Full VM support. (Otherwise I need to pay additionally for VMWare Workstation.)

    If they added all that to Win 10 Pro, I'd be fully on board.

    Then, why do I not use Win 10 Enterprise? Can you tell me how much does it cost to get a single copy? And also where to download it?
    From https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/...-use-applocker:

    You can use the AppLocker CSP to configure AppLocker policies on any edition of Windows 10. You can only manage AppLocker with Group Policy on devices running Windows 10 Enterprise, Windows 10 Education, and Windows Server 2016.

    Windows 10 Pro, Education and Enterprise editions come with full Hyper-V virtualization.

    Windows 10 Enterprise licenses, either cloud (Enterprise E3 and E5 plans) or volume licensing can only be bought from Microsoft partners: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/WindowsForBusiness/buy

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  5.    17 Mar 2017 #5
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kari View Post
    Hmm are you trying to be clever? Hmm of course Settings app have to work. It's the one and only exception.
    No, I'm not trying to be clever. I'm just correcting inaccuracies. Speaking of which, Windows Server 2016 Essentials comes pre-packaged with the following UWP apps (from AppLocker menu):

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    That is why I was asking how to install more?

    They can clearly run so I don't see any reason why it won't accept other UWP apps.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kari View Post
    You can use the AppLocker CSP to configure AppLocker policies on any edition of Windows 10. You can only manage AppLocker...
    Microsoft are really funny. What good is it going to do me if I can only manage AppLocker How about enforcing it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kari View Post
    Windows 10 Enterprise licenses, either cloud (Enterprise E3 and E5 plans) or volume licensing can only be bought from Microsoft partners: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/WindowsForBusiness/buy
    I'm sorry I'm already on the 3rd page deep in this *^%$ and I still don't know how much it costs to get a single license?
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  6.    18 Mar 2017 #6
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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmd View Post
    I'm sorry I'm already on the 3rd page deep in this *^%$ and I still don't know how much it costs to get a single license?
    You have to contact an official Microsoft Partner to get more information. In the page I linked to in my previous post, search for a member of MPN (Microsoft Partner Network) in your area:

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    Another site to search MPN members in your area: Find Microsoft Partners Near You - MSFT Partner Directory

    Windows 10 Enterprise E3 plans start at $7 per month.
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  7.    18 Mar 2017 #7
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kari View Post
    You have to contact an official Microsoft Partner to get more information. In the page I linked to in my previous post, search for a member of MPN (Microsoft Partner Network) in your area
    ...Windows 10 Enterprise E3 plans start at $7 per month.
    That is another reason why I don't want to deal with their Windows Enterprise model -- i.e., me needing to contact some partners, and then paying monthly fee. I'd rather pay one-time price and own the product. (Translation -- I don't want to be at Microsoft or anyone else's mercy if they decide to raise the price, take out some features, or do some other nasty stuff that is known to have been done with subscription services, or when you don't own a physical piece of the installer.)

    From what I've been able to find out (before posting this question) is that for our needs -- no cloud BS or virtualization, Azure, or other thing-em-bobs -- when we own a copy of Windows that I can install on our own physical hardware that DOES NOT connect to Microsoft or in any way offload our data to them, etc -- the minimum requirement is 5 licenses. At that point, I said, "OK, thank you. But no thank you!" We're not paying for 5 licenses of something that we need only one copy of.

    Thus I came across this Server Essentials, which kinda works like an old model Windows. No subscription, or other license BS. Thus I went with it.

    At this point I want to go back to my original question. So please don't change the subject.

    Does anyone know how to install those Metro apps on the Server 2016 Essentials? (Obviously manually, as there's no Store app.)
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  8.    18 Mar 2017 #8
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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmd View Post
    At this point I want to go back to my original question. So please don't change the subject.

    Does anyone know how to install those Metro apps on the Server 2016 Essentials? (Obviously manually, as there's no Store app.)
    How have I changed the subject? I have answered your questions, but as it seems you didn't understand the answer, I repeat: It is not possible to install UWP apps in Windows Server OS.
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