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  1.    21 Jan 2017 #1
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    Net Framework Reinstall Problem


    Hopefully this thread is in the right subforum, wasn't sure where .net framework falls under technically.

    Well hello there, thanks in advance for hearing me out, I got a strange issue that has left me stumped.

    I recently got a new laptop with Windows 10 (64 bit), mainly used for playing games. To get Windows up to date I used a program called WSUS Offline Update. As the name implies it downloads all the Windows updates (including an option for .net framework) so you can install them at your leisure without an internet connection, it will even reboot for you so you don't have to babysit it.

    After WOU finished running, I ran Windows update just to catch a few of the most recent updates that weren't on WOU yet. Everything went fine, afterwards I installed all my drivers and then Steam. Been playing games no problem since.

    My troubles came up when I tried to get an older game working (not part of Steam). This particular game (Uthgard, a free server for the mmo Dark Age of Camelot) calls for some certain procedures to get working correctly. I diligently went through each instruction to get the game working, but it still crashes on the splashscreen.

    The only thing I haven't tried is reinstalling .net framework, but I'm not sure how because I think WOU may have installed it strangely. Normally you would go to programs & features and uninstall it there, but it isn't there at all when I look. Next I tried looking for the specific update that included .net framework, but the only listed updates were the ones I installed through Windows update after WOU was finished. After that I tried loading the .net framework 4.6 installer I had downloaded to see if there's an uninstall or repair button, but it just says "your version is already up to date."

    Next I went to google and found a .net framework repair tool, a .net framework cleanup tool and a .net framework verification tool. First I tried the repair tool and it said it could not fix it. Then I tried the cleanup tool, hoping to wipe out the files to lay the foundation for a clean install. After rebooting I loaded the 4.6 version installer again and it again said "your version is already up to date." Using the verification tool it indeed said that all my .net framework versions were still installed.

    Since the cleanup tool didn't work and I can't find it under programs & features, nor the relevant update to uninstall, I'm at a loss at what to do next. Not sure if this is so complicated because I used WSUS Offline Update, most tutorials show the Microsoft .net framework versions clearly under programs & features.

    Any help on how to reinstall my .net framework would be greatly appreciated, thank you!
    Last edited by dubs; 21 Jan 2017 at 14:36.
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  2.    22 Jan 2017 #2
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    Trnava
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    Windows 10.4 Home 1709 x64

    You do not have NET Framework 4.6 Advanced Services listed?



    You can use this to see it it is enabled or not. Look for those 2: NetFx4-AdvSrvs and WCF-Services45
    Dism /Online /Get-Features

    And you can use this to disable / enable it.
    Dism /Online /Disable-Feature /FeatureName:NetFx4-AdvSrvs /Quiet /NoRestart
    Dism /Online /Disable-Feature /FeatureName:WCF-Services45 /Quiet /NoRestart

    Dism /Online /Enable-Feature /FeatureName:NetFx4-AdvSrvs /All
    Dism /Online /Enable-Feature /FeatureName:WCF-Services45 /All
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  3.    22 Jan 2017 #3
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    Yes I've seen that, but disabling/enabling isn't the same as reinstalling right? I looked for the specific Windows update (KB2828152) that includes .net framework 4.5/4.6 under Installed Updates in Programs & Features, but it doesn't show up there. I think it's caused the bulk of Windows updates were done through WSUS Offline Update and only the most recent ones were installed through Windows Update.

    When I ran the .net framework repair tool I got this message:

    "The tool is unable to resolve the installation issue on your computer."

    C:\Windows\windowsupdate.log


    C:\Windows\logs\cbs\cbs.log


    C:\Users\Woody\AppData\Local\Temp\FixDotNet.log


    C:\Users\Woody\AppData\Local\Temp\NetFxSetupEvents.txt


    C:\Users\Woody\AppData\Local\Temp\dd_dotnetfx45_decompression_log.txt


    C:\Users\Woody\AppData\Local\Temp\dd_NDP46-KB3045560-Web (1)_decompression_log.txt


    C:\Users\Woody\AppData\Local\Temp\dd_NDP46-KB3045560-Web_decompression_log.txt


    C:\Users\Woody\AppData\Local\Temp\dd_NetFxRepairTool_decompression_log.txt


    C:\Users\Woody\AppData\Local\Temp\dd_vcredistMSI0EB8.txt


    C:\Users\Woody\AppData\Local\Temp\dd_vcredistMSI4742.txt


    C:\Users\Woody\AppData\Local\Temp\dd_vcredistMSI4753.txt


    C:\Users\Woody\AppData\Local\Temp\dd_vcredistUI0EB8.txt


    C:\Users\Woody\AppData\Local\Temp\dd_vcredistUI182E.txt


    C:\Users\Woody\AppData\Local\Temp\dd_vcredistUI4742.txt


    C:\Users\Woody\AppData\Local\Temp\dd_vcredistUI4753.txt


    C:\Users\Woody\AppData\Local\Temp\dd_vcredist_amd64_20161217134111.log


    C:\Users\Woody\AppData\Local\Temp\dd_vcredist_amd64_20161217134111_0_vcRuntimeMinimum_x64.log


    C:\Users\Woody\AppData\Local\Temp\dd_vcredist_amd64_20161217134111_1_vcRuntimeAdditional_x64.log


    C:\Users\Woody\AppData\Local\Temp\dd_vcredist_amd64_20161223202531.log


    C:\Users\Woody\AppData\Local\Temp\dd_vcredist_amd64_20161223202531_0_vcRuntimeAdditional_x64.log


    C:\Users\Woody\AppData\Local\Temp\dd_vcredist_amd64_20161223202531_1_vcRuntimeMinimum_x64.log


    C:\Users\Woody\AppData\Local\Temp\dd_vcredist_amd64_20161223202534.log


    C:\Users\Woody\AppData\Local\Temp\dd_vcredist_amd64_20161223202534_0_vcRuntimeMinimum_x64.log


    C:\Users\Woody\AppData\Local\Temp\dd_vcredist_amd64_20161223202534_1_vcRuntimeAdditional_x64.log


    C:\Users\Woody\AppData\Local\Temp\dd_vcredist_x86_20161217134112.log


    C:\Users\Woody\AppData\Local\Temp\dd_vcredist_x86_20161217134112_0_vcRuntimeMinimum_x86.log


    C:\Users\Woody\AppData\Local\Temp\dd_vcredist_x86_20161217134112_1_vcRuntimeAdditional_x86.log


    C:\Users\Woody\AppData\Local\Temp\dd_vcredist_x86_20161223202530.log


    C:\Users\Woody\AppData\Local\Temp\dd_vcredist_x86_20161223202532.log


    C:\Users\Woody\AppData\Local\Temp\dd_vcredist_x86_20170119200512.log


    C:\Users\Woody\AppData\Local\Temp\dd_vcredist_x86_20170119200512_000_vcRuntimeMinimum_x86.log


    C:\Users\Woody\AppData\Local\Temp\dd_vcredist_x86_20170119200512_001_vcRuntimeAdditional_x86.log


    C:\Users\Woody\AppData\Local\Temp\dd_vcredist_x86_20170120093910.log


    C:\Users\Woody\AppData\Local\Temp\dd_vcredist_x86_20170120093910_000_vcRuntimeMinimum_x86.log


    C:\Users\Woody\AppData\Local\Temp\dd_vcredist_x86_20170120093910_001_vcRuntimeAdditional_x86.log


    C:\Users\Woody\AppData\Local\Temp\dd_vcredist_x86_20170120142658.log


    C:\Users\Woody\AppData\Local\Temp\dd_vcredist_x86_20170120142658_000_vcRuntimeMinimum_x86.log


    C:\Users\Woody\AppData\Local\Temp\dd_vcredist_x86_20170120142658_001_vcRuntimeAdditional_x86.log


    C:\Users\Woody\AppData\Local\Temp\dd_vcredist_x86_20170120143254.log


    C:\Users\Woody\AppData\Local\Temp\dd_vcredist_x86_20170120143254_000_vcRuntimeAdditional_x86.log


    C:\Users\Woody\AppData\Local\Temp\dd_vcredist_x86_20170120143254_001_vcRuntimeMinimum_x86.log


    C:\Users\Woody\AppData\Local\Temp\dd_vcredist_x86_20170120143707.log


    C:\Users\Woody\AppData\Local\Temp\dd_vcredist_x86_20170120143707_000_vcRuntimeMinimum_x86.log


    C:\Users\Woody\AppData\Local\Temp\dd_vcredist_x86_20170120143707_001_vcRuntimeAdditional_x86.log


    C:\Users\Woody\AppData\Local\Temp\dd_vcredist_x86_20170120165407.log


    C:\Users\Woody\AppData\Local\Temp\dd_vcredist_x86_20170120165407_000_vcRuntimeMinimum_x86.log


    C:\Users\Woody\AppData\Local\Temp\dd_vcredist_x86_20170120165407_001_vcRuntimeAdditional_x86.log


    C:\Users\Woody\AppData\Local\Temp\Microsoft Visual C++ 2010 x64 Redistributable Setup_20161218_192335845-MSI_vc_red.msi.txt


    C:\Users\Woody\AppData\Local\Temp\Microsoft Visual C++ 2010 x86 Redistributable Setup_20161217_141149729-MSI_vc_red.msi.txt


    C:\Users\Woody\AppData\Local\Temp\Microsoft Visual C++ 2010 x86 Redistributable Setup_20161218_192329360-MSI_vc_red.msi.txt


    C:\Users\Woody\AppData\Local\Temp\Microsoft Visual C++ 2010 x86 Redistributable Setup_20161223_160330950-MSI_vc_red.msi.txt


    C:\Users\Woody\AppData\Local\Temp\Microsoft .NET Framework 4.5.1 Setup_20161217_140011043.html


    C:\Users\Woody\AppData\Local\Temp\Microsoft .NET Framework 4.6 Setup_20170120_093611588.html


    C:\Users\Woody\AppData\Local\Temp\Microsoft .NET Framework 4.6 Setup_20170120_165423503.html


    C:\Users\Woody\AppData\Local\Temp\Microsoft .NET Framework 4.6 Setup_20170120_203311431.html


    C:\Users\Woody\AppData\Local\Temp\Microsoft .NET Framework 4.6 Setup_20170120_203953845.html


    C:\Users\Woody\AppData\Local\Temp\Microsoft .NET Framework 4.6 Setup_20170120_205536858.html


    C:\Users\Woody\AppData\Local\Temp\Microsoft .NET Framework 4.6 Setup_20170120_205636564.html


    C:\Users\Woody\AppData\Local\Temp\Microsoft .NET Framework 4.6 Setup_20170120_210838670.html


    C:\Users\Woody\AppData\Local\Temp\Microsoft .NET Framework 4.6 Setup_20170120_215247469.html


    C:\Users\Woody\AppData\Local\Temp\Microsoft .NET Framework 4.6 Setup_20170120_220834750.html


    C:\Users\Woody\AppData\Local\Temp\Microsoft Visual C++ 2010 x64 Redistributable Setup_20161218_192335845.html


    C:\Users\Woody\AppData\Local\Temp\Microsoft Visual C++ 2010 x86 Redistributable Setup_20161217_141149729.html


    C:\Users\Woody\AppData\Local\Temp\Microsoft Visual C++ 2010 x86 Redistributable Setup_20161218_192329360.html


    C:\Users\Woody\AppData\Local\Temp\Microsoft Visual C++ 2010 x86 Redistributable Setup_20161223_160330950.html


    C:\Users\Woody\AppData\Local\Temp\FixDotNet_HKCR_Installer.regdump


    C:\Users\Woody\AppData\Local\Temp\FixDotNet_HKLM_Installer.regdump
    Last edited by dubs; 22 Jan 2017 at 18:31.
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  4.    22 Jan 2017 #4
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    Which version of .NET does the game need? If it's old it may have originally needed .NET version 2 or .NET version 3?

    Such old applications can't use the latest .NET version 4.xx and need the older version.

    In Windows 10 terms that would mean you'd need .NET version 3.51 to be switched on with the Turn Windows Features On option, as per TairikuOkami's screenshot above or this tutorial:
    Windows Features - Turn On or Off in Windows 10

    Ignore me if you've already done all this...
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  5.    22 Jan 2017 #5
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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidY View Post
    Which version of .NET does the game need? If it's old it may have originally needed .NET version 2 or .NET version 3?

    Such old applications can't use the latest .NET version 4.xx and need the older version.

    In Windows 10 terms that would mean you'd need .NET version 3.51 to be switched on with the Turn Windows Features On option, as per TairikuOkami's screenshot above or this tutorial:
    Windows Features - Turn On or Off in Windows 10

    Ignore me if you've already done all this...
    Thanks for the input, but it isn't relevant cause the game requires 4.6. The only other specific thing the game requires is Visual C++ Redistributable for Visual Studio 2015 x86, which I've installed and reinstalled to see if that was the problem. Any way I can check to make sure the game is using this specific version of C++ cause under Programs & Features I have a bunch of other C++ versions.
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  6.    23 Jan 2017 #6
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    Trnava
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    Quote Originally Posted by dubs View Post
    Thanks for the input, but it isn't relevant cause the game requires 4.6.
    4.6 is an update to 4.5, rather than a standalone version, which could be installed separately, once installed over 4.5.
    NET Framework Repair Tool is currently supporting version 4.6.1, but the latest is 4.6.2 (might not work properly).
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  7.    23 Jan 2017 #7
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    Quote Originally Posted by TairikuOkami View Post
    4.6 is an update to 4.5, rather than a standalone version, which could be installed separately, once installed over 4.5.
    NET Framework Repair Tool is currently supporting version 4.6.1, but the latest is 4.6.2 (might not work properly).
    I see, thanks. So if the .net framework repair tool is sending me that log file does that mean my 4.6 version is corrupt or not working correctly? Or does that mean the repair tool doesn't know how to fix it?
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  8.    24 Jan 2017 #8
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    Quote Originally Posted by dubs View Post
    I see, thanks. So if the .net framework repair tool is sending me that log file does that mean my 4.6 version is corrupt or not working correctly?
    The log you have posted only shows, which files were uncompressed during setup, you need to check each log file and look for errors, particularly:

    C:\Users\Woody\AppData\Local\Temp\FixDotNet.log
    C:\Users\Woody\AppData\Local\Temp\NetFxSetupEvents.txt
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  9.    26 Jan 2017 #9
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    Quote Originally Posted by TairikuOkami View Post
    The log you have posted only shows, which files were uncompressed during setup, you need to check each log file and look for errors, particularly:

    C:\Users\Woody\AppData\Local\Temp\FixDotNet.log
    C:\Users\Woody\AppData\Local\Temp\NetFxSetupEvents.txt
    I looked through those two files and am a bit confused. I'd post the results but they're pretty long, is that ok?
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  10.    27 Jan 2017 #10
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