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  1.    09 Jun 2015 #1
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    Get Windows 10 (gwx) app: Appraiser and Reservation notification icon


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    SlartyNote2: I tried getting to the dropbox, but the redirect in TF just kept spinning so I uploaded a revised copy with the Win8.1 KB check corrected.: Download fixGwx_full.zip here
    The zip folder is a different name, but the batch file inside is still named win10fix_full.bat. If you download this zip file, you can ignore any comments about KB 3035583 being checked twice instead of KB 2976978 for Win8.1.
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    See Yaqub K's reply marked as Answer dated June 1, 2015
    It's easy to find, it's the 1st reply

    But wait ... there's more. An intrepid team of MS community members worked a few suggested solutions into a cmd file.

    Susan Bradley (a friend of Designer Media forums) wrote:
    There is a community provided tool/script that will go through several means to fix the common issues. The link to this tool/script is buried on page 90 of this forum - but the easier way to find it is in the middle of this InfoWorld article - it's the dropbox link Dropbox - win10fix_full.zip which is also referred to in the article below:


    Instructions to run the tool:
    1. Go to https://www.dropbox.com/s/0u0au9xgy6ss18p/win10fix_full.zip?dl=0 and download the file.
      SlartyNote1: You do not need to create a Dropbox account, just [X] out of that dialog window. The download should begin automatically and will be saved in your default download save location (normally your Downloads folder)


    2. Copy the win10fix_full.bat file to anywhere else like desktop.

    3. Right click the file and click run as administrator.

    4. Follow the screen instruction until to come to main menu screen.

    5. On main menu screen do step 1 first and check if you go the updates installed and and then press any key it will take you back to main menu.

    6. Now do step 2 which only takes like 1 second and should have the icon in the task bar.

    Please note this tool is not officially from Microsoft is not sanctioned by them but it has been reviewed by me, is not malicious and certainly makes it easier to get the process done.

    Additional comments by another poster that may help explain what's going on:
    When you run the batch file, upon clicking Selection 1, it not only checks that update KB3035583 is installed, but also KB 2952664.

    Selection 2 (Quick Method #1 [JC from answers.microsoft.com]) which updated the registry is what fixed it for me instantly.

    Selection 3 (Quick Method #2 [KevinStevens_845]) tries the GWX task, and says it could take up to 10 minutes for the icon to show up.

    Selection 4 (Long Method #1 (Yaqub K's method)] says it could take from 10 to 40 or so minutes, and will continually loop, that is normal, but you should keep seeing 'RUNNING' as it loops, and you may have to run Selection 4 (Yaqub's method) again for it to kick in.

    ALSO, when you finally get the box to enter your email address for your confirmation, you may have to wait 5-10 minutes for it to arrive. Mine said "Congratulations on reserving your free upgrade to Windows 10" in the subject line.
    Also note that you need to not have hid IE in order to receive this.
    Enable IE in Programs and Features if you have it off. Go do Windows Updates a few times. The following updates will install:
    • Update for Internet Explorer 8 Compatibility View List for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB2598845)
    • Internet Explorer 11 for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems
    • Cumulative Security Update for Internet Explorer 8 for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB3049563)
    • Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB3035583)
    • Cumulative Security Update for Internet Explorer 11 for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB3021952)
    • Cumulative Security Update for Internet Explorer 11 for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB3049563)

    Note: You can uncheck IE after your reservation is complete.

    Also note that you don't have to make IE your default browser, merely not have hid it in Programs and features.


    The section below is resolved by downloading the fixGwx_full.zip file at the top of this thread.

    When I downloaded the zip file, I looked at the command set and saw that the Win8.1 KB checking section had a copy error. It checked for 3035583 twice and did not check for 2976978 - it's a common error when copying. It is also easy to fix, just change one of the set upcheck=3035583 statements to set upcheck=2976978, save the file and then run it as per the instructions.

    echo Windows 8^+ detected...
    echo.
    set upcheck=3035583
    echo Checking for update KB%upcheck%...
    dism /online /get-packages | findstr %upcheck% > NUL
    if %errorlevel%==0 (
    echo Update KB%upcheck% is installed!
    set missupdate=0
    ) else (
    echo Update KB%upcheck% is missing!
    set missupdate=1
    )
    echo.
    REM set upcheck=3035583
    set upcheck=2976978
    echo Checking for update KB%upcheck%...
    dism /online /get-packages | findstr %upcheck% > NUL
    if %errorlevel%==0 (
    echo Update KB%upcheck% is installed!
    ) else (
    echo Update KB%upcheck% is missing!
    set /a missupdate=%missupdate%+1>NUL
    )

    See Notes at the end of this post if you're not comfortable editing the batch file

    Unfortunately, there has been no solution for my Win7 box. I have also tried
    • restoring all hidden Windows Updates (even Silverlight)-WU is automatic (required), but I forced the Check for Updates anyway,
    • Checked that the Driver Installation setting is automatic (just in case there's some additional checking done against that),
    • SFC /Scannow,
    • CheckSUR,
    • Ran the Windows update Trouble shooter in Control Panel,
    • Dism /Online /Cleanup-Image /ScanHealth, and
    • Reset Windows Update

    The Dism scanhealth reported two language 'errors', neither SFC or CheckSUR flagged those. Also in an unrelated post over on Sysnative, Tom982 (another friend of DM forums) confirmed that these 'errors' were not important (niemiro was consulted).

    So that leaves a few possibilities
    1) The Realtek audio driver is the reason
    2) No speakers attached is the reason - boy that would be dumb
    3) The system is not Win10 ready
    4) Win10 is not ready for this hardware - some issues specific to the HW on that box are deemed showstoppers by MS.

    Notes:
    The process is driven trough Scheduled tasks that trigger on login and also daily
    Look in C:\Windows\Logs\gwx and the Event logs (any gwx reference in Application and Services>Microsoft>Windows) for operational information.

    If you're not comfortable editing the command file to fix the Win8.1 Windows update pre-requisite check, you can manually check for that one update with the following command:

    dism /online /get-packages | findstr 2976978

    Also, if the win10fix_full batch file helped, please include which option(s) you tried and which one(s) helped - thanks.
    You can just use the numbers (i.e. I tried 1 & 2 - 2 fixed it
    Choices in the batch file:
    1: Check Update Status
    2: Quick-Method #1 [JC from answers.microsoft.com]
    3: Quick-Method #2 [KevinStevens_845 from answers.microsoft.com]
    4: Long-Method #1 [Yaqub K from answers.microsoft.com]
    Last edited by Slartybart; 27 Jul 2015 at 10:13. Reason: add corrected batch file for KB2976978
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  2.    10 Jun 2015 #2
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    June 10 : Windows Update (WU) sent this to my Win7 box.

    KB 2952664 : Compatibility update for upgrading Windows 7
    Introduction : This update helps Microsoft make improvements to the current operating system in order to ease the upgrade experience to the latest version of Windows.

    How to obtain this update : Windows Update
    This update is provided as an Optional update from Windows Update.

    How to obtain the update from Windows Update
    To obtain this update from Windows Update, follow these steps:
    1. Click Start, and then type Update in the search box. In the list of results, click Windows Update.
    2. In the left pane, click Check for updates, and then wait while Windows looks for the latest updates for your computer.
    3. If you see a message telling you that optional updates are available, or telling you to review optional updates, click the message to view the optional updates.
    4. In the list, select the check box for update 2952664, click OK, and then click Install updates.


    See the frequently asked questions for Windows Update in Windows 7.
    Looking deeper, it appears that this KB contains some new Apprariser and Compatibility files. Sadly the update changed nothing on the machine as far as the gwx icon is concerned ... maybe it will take the next cycle though the system test tonight.

    The update failed on the first install, I just checked for updates again and it went through.

    Reboot is required.
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  3.    10 Jun 2015 #3
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    Since I can't run the newest compatibility assistant, I ran the Win8.1 Upgrade Assistant on the Win7 box

    At least it told me something.
    Secure boot is not supported by the machine, so I won't be able to use that on Win10.
    The only app that was NOT compatible with Win 8.1 is MS Security Essentials - that makes sense since it became Windows Defender

    I plan on waiting to upgrade until Redstone Q1 2016 anyway, so it's no problem that gwx doesn't work. It's just bugs me that it doesn't
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  4.    11 Jun 2015 #4
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    downloading the win10fix.zip file fixed it for me!
    my only issue now is when I run the compatibility manager, to confirm my hardware is compatible, I get a message saying, "your report isn't available right now, You can still reserve your upgrade, When its time to start the upgrade, we'll run another report to make sure your pc works win windows 10"
    Whats up with that?

    does anyone here have a dual video card setup running the windows 10 preview? Thats the only "unusual" part of my configuration..

    Thanks!
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  5.    11 Jun 2015 #5
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    Quote Originally Posted by wase4711 View Post
    downloading the win10fix.zip file fixed it for me!
    my only issue now is when I run the compatibility manager, to confirm my hardware is compatible, I get a message saying, "your report isn't available right now, You can still reserve your upgrade, When its time to start the upgrade, we'll run another report to make sure your pc works win windows 10"
    Whats up with that?

    does anyone here have a dual video card setup running the windows 10 preview? Thats the only "unusual" part of my configuration..

    Thanks!
    I'm glad it helped .... I'm still not seeing the icon, so I can't really answer your question about the 'nag' other than to suggest that it is probably not necessary to run the compatibility manager unless you add / change your hardware or software. If it pops up because of the scheduled task, then I'm not sure what you can do about it.

    To keep this thread on topic, please create a new thread in Drivers and Hardware - Windows 10 Forums and ask your question about the dual video card setup over in that sub-forum. You'll get better response from members experienced in gfx cards.

    I've read some posts that report issues with a two gfx card configuration, but the hardware folks will focus on your specific configuration.

    Thanks

    Bill
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  6.    11 Jun 2015 #6
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    thanks bill I will head over to there and post!
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  7.    11 Jun 2015 #7
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    Ha! .... it dawned on me that I was using an older USB network adapter that I had to 'adjust' the inf file. So I installed a newer adapter and ran the batch file again.

    #2 made the icon appear

    Running Check your PC in the hamburger menu returned:

    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	gwxRetErr.png 
Views:	937 
Size:	60.0 KB 
ID:	21369

    So, I guess I'm done playing with gwx. I'm connected using the device it says is not supported, the same device I use on Win10 TP to connect.


    Compatibility report for Windows 10: FAQ
    What does it mean if a device is listed?
    If there's a problem with a device connected to your PC, it means your PC can run Windows 10, but the device won't work correctly after the upgrade because it isn't fully compatible. For example, your display might not work at the highest resolution, you might not hear audio from your speakers, or your printer might not work.

    In some cases, installing an updated device driver will fix compatibility problems with devices. For more detailed info about the compatibility of your device with Windows 10, go to the Windows Compatibility Center.
    This does not mean the machine won't run Win10 - it means that I might need a new network adapter or that Windows has to test the driver for the adapter I have.

    Rather disappointing experience - first the gwx app would not show up and there wasn't good information on it or why it wouldn't start. Then when it does run (thanks Susan et al) it tells me that Win10 will not run on the machine.

    I have every confidence that Win10 will in fact run on this machine, the Win8.1 Compact assistant passed everything.

    Win 10.0.130 is running native dual boot with Win7 SP1 on this machine now - so it's this Appraiser app that is wound a bit too tight.

    I'll uninstall KB3035583 in Windows Update so gwx doesn't nag me.

    Bill
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  8.    28 Jun 2015 #8
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    Cliff S offers the following counsel

    Quote Originally Posted by Cliff S View Post
    If you are not getting your GWX icon(Get Windows X) to reserve your upgrade in Windows 7 or Windows 8, check out these links.

    For Windows 7 SP1(You must be updated to this)

    For Windows 8.1 Update (You must be updated to this)
    From his post in this tutorial: Reserve Free Upgrade to Get Windows 10 in Windows 7 and 8.1
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  9.    11 Jul 2015 #9
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    Hey man Thanks for this. It enlighten me on how to use the command prompt methods.
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  10.    11 Jul 2015 #10
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    Quote Originally Posted by liamsantos499 View Post
    Hey man Thanks for this. It enlighten me on how to use the command prompt methods.
    You're welcome, I hope it helped
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