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  1.    06 Jun 2016 #1
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    WinToGo Free Version for W10 Pro


    I am trying to create a copy of W10 on a USB so that I can recover a bunch of files from a machine that experienced a Boot SSD failure. I'm trying to use the latest version of WinToGo Free and I'm using a HP64GB USB 3.0 stick. The ISO file I'm trying to use is the one from Tech Bench (Win10_1511_English_x64.ISO). All seems to be OK until I get to the select System Partitions and Boot Partitions. Then it's over! See attached screen shot. I'm sure I'm missing something obvious but sure could use a little help.
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  2.    06 Jun 2016 #2
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    What is the formatting of the 64GB Thumb drive? What format is required for the WinToGo? Windows has some issues with FAT32 formatting over 32GB. Can you increase the size of that Virtual hard disk from 14GB to something more like 24GB or even 32GB?
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  3.    07 Jun 2016 #3

    Hi there

    I've tried various methods of getting Windows to Go to work for W10 PRO -- the AOMEI partition manager even has an integrated "Windows to go" creator but at the stage "browse to Windows installation location" -- i.e my W10 ISO it gets about half way extracting the WIM and then fails with a message like not a Valid Windows installation media --which is obviously 100% B/S since that's the iso I used for a CLEAN W10 install.

    The W10 Enterprise version seems also to be hobbled to only run on "Certified devices" -- there's also nowhere on the Ms sites that I can find where I can get the "Imaging" program - on W8 I used GIMAGEX and you could download the ADK -- can't locate the W10 version of these (assuming there is one).

    For those who are interested Windows 8.1 could easily create a Windows to Go on any USB device certified or not

    How to Create a Windows To Go USB Drive Without the Enterprise Edition

    Anybody managed to get ANY version of W10 as a bootable Windows to Go product on a non certified device (Enterprise vesrion or not). Note - I want a stand alone bootable version - not one using VHD files since those require an initial partial boot up of the HDD to mount the virtual disk(s).

    The Windows to go should boot even if there's no HDD at all in the computer !!!!.

    If you need to recover data either create a Win 8.1 windows to go as above - or if you know Linux get a live CD and use that -- Linux can read and write NTFS files these days.

    I'd still be interested though if anybody has got W10 to go working on an ordinary (not certified) external USB device.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  4.    07 Jun 2016 #4
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    First, I have tried USB 3.0's that are 32, 64 and 128GB. All were formatted as NTFS. AOMEI acted like it worked. The USB's created had all the right stuff on them but they would not boot?! Or at least I let the little W10 circle go for 5 or 10 minutes and nothing seemed to be happening. WinToGo Free was a no go per the above screen shot.

    Now, I tried the gimagex and have run into more issues. I have 6 W10 v1511 machines of various vintages but no systems still running W8 or W8.1. gimagex appears like it needs some files from the Microsoft ADK download per the gimagex Help File. Is that correct? Can I install the ADK download for W8.1 on a machine running W10? Will that fix the issue shown in the attached Screen Shot? I think I may just go buy a cheap laptop and skip the WinToGo exercise! Just joking, I think.
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  5.    07 Jun 2016 #5

    Hi there
    Currently I'm not on Windows so I can't get the Windows ADK -- there is a W10 version but it downloads an .exe file - no off line installer --on a Linux system a .exe file is about as useful as a Chocolate Teapot.

    I wish Ms would realize that people often use other systems to download stuff --sometimes also its the only choice if your Windows OS is broken !!!

    I'm not sure though whether the W8 GIMAGEX version works with the W10 ADK - something I need to try out once I get a Windows system upp and running again.

    You can sysprep to a WINPE type of system but that's not the same as a full blown Windows to go.

    Windows to go 8.1 works perfectly though is you can put up with the W8.1 interface.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  6.    07 Jun 2016 #6
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken429 View Post
    I am trying to create a copy of W10 on a USB so that I can recover a bunch of files from a machine that experienced a Boot SSD failure. I'm trying to use the latest version of WinToGo Free and I'm using a HP64GB USB 3.0 stick. The ISO file I'm trying to use is the one from Tech Bench (Win10_1511_English_x64.ISO). All seems to be OK until I get to the select System Partitions and Boot Partitions. Then it's over! See attached screen shot. I'm sure I'm missing something obvious but sure could use a little help.
    I notice you have the Virtual hard disk size set to 14GB. Would that be large enough to hold a complete Windows x64 installation? What about increasing the size of the Virtual hard disk?
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  7.    07 Jun 2016 #7
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    Quote Originally Posted by NavyLCDR View Post
    I notice you have the Virtual hard disk size set to 14GB. Would that be large enough to hold a complete Windows x64 installation? What about increasing the size of the Virtual hard disk?
    This is almost certainly the problem.

    Actually on any flash drive, you might as well use all the flash drive capacity as it can only be installed as legacy bios, as you can only have one partition on the drive anyway (unless a wintogo flash drive as they can have a uefi install).



    Even if it did install in 14GB, there would be liitle space for it to function.
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  8.    07 Jun 2016 #8
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    Well, I just did it on a flash drive and it worked fine. I didn't get past the first reboot, though because, of course, it is slow. I did make the vhd drive 25GB in size. I have now made a WinToGo USB hard drive. That allows you to have a system partition and a boot partition. I'm past the first reboot after installing hardware drivers. Won't boot in UEFI mode, only legacy mode. This is not on a VHD drive. I suspect I'll be able to fix it so it boots in UEFI mode. Then the next project will be to see if I can make it dual boot between 32-bit and 64-bit :-)
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  9.    07 Jun 2016 #9
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    Windows 3.1 to Windows 10

    Note - I want a stand alone bootable version - not one using VHD files since those require an initial partial boot up of the HDD to mount the virtual disk(s).
    Not In Legacy Mode....

    Or use an External HDD as your portable device it will support booting both UEFI or Legacy Mode(s)
    You will just have to create a small 100MB Fat32 partition for the Boot Files - the rest of the external HDD will be NTFS then create your Partitions or VHD's...

    Or just Legacy Boot Option, to boot different VHD's... The Limit to the amount and size of VHD's is only limited to the size of the HDD

    Booting VHD's in Legacy Mode does not have the partition limit... As all the VHD's are on the same partition...

    When creating the Boot Files - you have to create them FIRST by writing the files from a Windows 8.1/10 OS..

    Then you can boot a windows 7 VHD as it is the Boot Files that support booting VHD's and Windows 7 Boot Files do not support VHD booting...

    As, you may not be able to Tell, I have done extensive testing with VHD booting, both internal and external drives and boot files written either internal (host) or external and Both...

    The only issue I have come across is booting an internal Windows 7 x86 VHD from an Internal UEFI Host... The Boot files have to be external..

    Here is a very good program for doing it > http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/149612-winntsetup-v386/
    Last edited by Kyhi; 07 Jun 2016 at 19:18.
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  10.    08 Jun 2016 #10
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    Quote Originally Posted by NavyLCDR View Post
    Well, I just did it on a flash drive and it worked fine. I didn't get past the first reboot, though because, of course, it is slow. I did make the vhd drive 25GB in size. I have now made a WinToGo USB hard drive. That allows you to have a system partition and a boot partition. I'm past the first reboot after installing hardware drivers. Won't boot in UEFI mode, only legacy mode. This is not on a VHD drive. I suspect I'll be able to fix it so it boots in UEFI mode. Then the next project will be to see if I can make it dual boot between 32-bit and 64-bit :-)
    Wintousb using UEFI boot manager, Windows To Go Creator, All-in-One Microsoft Windows Setup software - The EasyUEFI Development Team works fine in EUFI installs but menus can be confusing.

    Should be faster in EUFI as well as usb3 does not always work in legacy bios mode (I could never get it to work on a usb legacy bios flash drive but it worked in uefi hard drive).

    I do not know of anway of making it dual 32/64 boot from external drive though (beyond my paygrade :-)).
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