1.    27 Mar 2016 #1
    Join Date : Sep 2015
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    Windows 10

    All Apps sorting issue


    Greetings all. I have a couple of persistent irritations with my Win10 Pro setup that I can find no remedy for. Posting on various MS forums in the past for other issues has generally only elicited a 'run sfc /scannow', followed by no further comment. So, I'm bypassing them this time and submitting them as two separate posts. The second relates to File Explorer.

    First up, I'm having trouble getting the AllApps start menu to show in alphabetical order. Most apps show correctly, but several don't want to play ball. The relevant shortcuts are in 'C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs' (see image) and changes can be seen in the menu immediately. I have no shortcuts in my 'C:\Users\JP\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs' directory, although I have created the problematic ones there when trying to resolve this issue. As it had no effect, I removed them from that directory. Two menu items that fail to sort properly are 'Mozilla Firefox' and 'Mozilla Thunderbird'. Although the shortcuts were renamed after program installation to 'Firefox' and 'Thunderbird', they cling to the 'M' in sort order, rather than 'F' and 'T', respectively (see image). I have tried all sorts of things in an attempt to fix this, but to no avail. Instead of moving the shortcuts, I have deleted them and rebuilt them on the desktop, before placing them in the Programs directory. Nothing changes though .


    Windows 10 64 bit
    Ver. 1511
    Build. 10586.164
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails AllApps.jpg   ProgramData.jpg  
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  2.    27 Mar 2016 #2
    Join Date : Jul 2015
    Poole Dorset UK
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    Windows 10 x64 Home Version(1709) Build16299.125

    Quote Originally Posted by Jezzer56 View Post
    Greetings all. I have a couple of persistent irritations with my Win10 Pro setup that I can find no remedy for. Posting on various MS forums in the past for other issues has generally only elicited a 'run sfc /scannow', followed by no further comment. So, I'm bypassing them this time and submitting them as two separate posts. The second relates to File Explorer.

    First up, I'm having trouble getting the AllApps start menu to show in alphabetical order. Most apps show correctly, but several don't want to play ball. The relevant shortcuts are in 'C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs' (see image) and changes can be seen in the menu immediately. I have no shortcuts in my 'C:\Users\JP\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs' directory, although I have created the problematic ones there when trying to resolve this issue. As it had no effect, I removed them from that directory. Two menu items that fail to sort properly are 'Mozilla Firefox' and 'Mozilla Thunderbird'. Although the shortcuts were renamed after program installation to 'Firefox' and 'Thunderbird', they cling to the 'M' in sort order, rather than 'F' and 'T', respectively (see image). I have tried all sorts of things in an attempt to fix this, but to no avail. Instead of moving the shortcuts, I have deleted them and rebuilt them on the desktop, before placing them in the Programs directory. Nothing changes though .


    Windows 10 64 bit
    Ver. 1511
    Build. 10586.164
    Hi I don't think you can move them even though you have shortened the Name
    Because Windows recognises them as Mozilla App
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  3.    27 Mar 2016 #3
    Join Date : Sep 2015
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    Thread Starter

    Thanks for your reply hTconeM9user. That's a bit of bad news . The same thing happens to all my dBpoweramp shortcuts as well. 'dBpoweramp Batch Converter' is listed under 'B', 'dBpoweramp CD Ripper' is under 'C', and so on! Never had this issue under any previous Windows incarnations. I suppose this comes under 'progress' .
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  4.    27 Mar 2016 #4
    Join Date : Jul 2015
    Poole Dorset UK
    Posts : 2,567
    Windows 10 x64 Home Version(1709) Build16299.125

    Yes you might find in a later upgrade or update that it will work
    So your best bet is to just wait and see what they have in the pipe line
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  5.    27 Mar 2016 #5
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jezzer56 View Post
    Thanks for your reply hTconeM9user. That's a bit of bad news . The same thing happens to all my dBpoweramp shortcuts as well. 'dBpoweramp Batch Converter' is listed under 'B', 'dBpoweramp CD Ripper' is under 'C', and so on! Never had this issue under any previous Windows incarnations. I suppose this comes under 'progress' .
    I doubt Microsoft is going to change that.
    If you find it important, you can try posting your request in Feedback app which you can find in All apps list. The chance of MS taking action on your request is very slim however. But no harm trying.
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  6.    28 Mar 2016 #6
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    Quote Originally Posted by davidhk View Post
    I doubt Microsoft is going to change that.
    If you find it important, you can try posting your request in Feedback app which you can find in All apps list. The chance of MS taking action on your request is very slim however. But no harm trying.
    Thanks for the input davidhk. I'll have a quiet word with MS .
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