Windows 10: Back to the stone age --what are they doing

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  1.    26 Feb 2016 #1

    Back to the stone age --what are they doing


    Hi there

    The new 4K ultra HD DVD's are going to have to have an Internet connection to play them !!!! what's the point then of "Portable Media" on a computer in places where Internet access is slow or even existent.

    This for sure will play into the hands of the Pirates. !!!!

    I for one won't be buying any of that stuff if it needs Internet connection to play MY OWN DISC. !!!!!!!

    Here's a quite from the spec.

    ...........The next version of AACS Copy Protection accompanying those newly released Ultra HD Blu-ray titles is the version 2.0 of Advanced Access Content System. According to a document called AACS 2.0 Draft, the new copy protection requires the Ultra HD Blu-ray players to support two AACS 2.0 functionalities, one named ‘basic’ and the other referred as ‘enhanced’,” the company said in a statement.......................................

    ......................Noting that the debate over copying commercial movie discs for home use has “raged on for decades”, Fengtao says that the practice of decrypting copy protection technology has done so too and is not likely to stop in the foreseeable future. Even the fact that AACS 2.0 requires an Internet connection for Ultra HD Blu-ray discs to be played back for the first time is unlikely to stop the problem. .................................


    Full article here :

    DVDFab Says No Crack For Next-Gen Blu-ray Discs - TorrentFreak

    (This isn't I hope against Forum rules -- just stating a fact and also the desire of people who want to back up their DVD's on decent computer storage and be able to play them when and where they like with no silly restrictions).

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  2. Posts : 329
    Windows 10 Pro x64, Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1, Windows 8.1 Pro x64
       26 Feb 2016 #2

    Even the fact that AACS 2.0 requires an Internet connection for Ultra HD Blu-ray discs to be played back for the first time is unlikely to stop the problem..................................
    From what you quoted, it seems like it will only require the internet the first time you play the DVD. Possibly like activation.
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  3.    26 Feb 2016 #3

    pbcopter said: View Post
    From what you quoted, it seems like it will only require the internet the first time you play the DVD. Possibly like activation.
    Hi there

    So I'm a tourist say in a town in USA -- I buy a DVD to play back in my camper van away from anywhere -- no Internet --- then Bang - can't play -- what a load of rubbish.

    This is a RETROGRADE step -- I'll gladly trawl pirate sites if this happens and won't feel guilty.

    Could you imagine buying any other product and not being able to use it as soon as you got home whether or not Internet was available.

    As a regular traveller between Europe and USA I always thought also those regional restrictions on DVD's were stupid -- why as a tourist in say NY buying perfectly legally a DVD with region 1 could I then be prevented on playing on my laptop which was purchased say in Brussels or London.

    Fortunately VLC (and other players) killed that whole nonsense.

    The HD activation might also be problematical - if you bought say the DVD in NY and want to activate it in Lisbon where the DVD hadn't even been released. These guys should realize that we are all on Planet Earth and it's a GLOBAL market

    Also say you have a Stand alone Blu Ray player -- why should you have to connect your TV to the Internet even if it is enabled with all modern connectivity features. I might like to have the TV in a Shed in the garden with no Internet -- why not !!!!.

    Cheers
    jimbo
      My ComputerSystem Spec

  4.    26 Feb 2016 #4

    It's a growing trend, and IMHO, all because of pirates. Because people steal and or copy media, its getting harder and harder for those that buy legitimate to actually use said media. Be it games, movies, software, you name it. Buy a game, want to play it at you cottage, that doesn't have internet, good luck with that. Now movies, I'm not surprised. It is a step backwards, but that's the way its going.
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  5.    27 Feb 2016 #5

    alphanumeric said: View Post
    It's a growing trend, and IMHO, all because of pirates. Because people steal and or copy media, its getting harder and harder for those that buy legitimate to actually use said media. Be it games, movies, software, you name it. Buy a game, want to play it at you cottage, that doesn't have internet, good luck with that. Now movies, I'm not surprised. It is a step backwards, but that's the way its going.
    That never stopped any pirate, just made few more.
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  6.    27 Feb 2016 #6

    CountMike said: View Post
    That never stopped any pirate, just made few more.
    Pretty well. If you make it too restrictive people will just get pissed off and look for an easier way. I have some games that I can't play anymore because the DRM installs as a driver between your optical drive and the PC. It's incompatible with the current versions of Windows and they haven't updated it. The alternative is the shady side of the internet and I'm not going there. I'm not infecting my PC with malware just to play an old game.
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  7.    27 Feb 2016 #7

    alphanumeric said: View Post
    Pretty well. If you make it too restrictive people will just get pissed off and look for an easier way. I have some games that I can't play anymore because the DRM installs as a driver between your optical drive and the PC. It's incompatible with the current versions of Windows and they haven't updated it. The alternative is the shady side of the internet and I'm not going there. I'm not infecting my PC with malware just to play an old game.
    I just ignore that stuff protected like that, double whammy, not only that I don't pay for it, I also don't watch it either. If more people would do that it would teach them a lesson. My life doesn't depend on some stupid movie.
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  8.    27 Feb 2016 #8

    CountMike said: View Post
    I just ignore that stuff protected like that, double whammy, not only that I don't pay for it, I also don't watch it either. If more people would do that it would teach them a lesson. My life doesn't depend on some stupid movie.
    The games I play now like that, use Steam etc. It's a lot more forgiving when you upgrade to a new version of Windows. I don't buy movies on disk so that's not an issue for me. It's on demand or Netflix so I need internet to watch them anyway. It's a catch 22 no matter how you look at it these days. DRM is a royal PITA.
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  9.    29 Feb 2016 #9

    alphanumeric said: View Post
    It's a growing trend, and IMHO, all because of pirates. Because people steal and or copy media, its getting harder and harder for those that buy legitimate to actually use said media. Be it games, movies, software, you name it. Buy a game, want to play it at you cottage, that doesn't have internet, good luck with that. Now movies, I'm not surprised. It is a step backwards, but that's the way its going.
    No, that's just wrong. It has been the decision of the movie studios to copy protect DVD/ Bluerays/ whatever. They and only they are responsible for this stupidity. They don't realise that with every new copy protection they are not harassing the pirates, they will always find a way to circumvent the protective mechanism, they are harassing their customers. So people should stop buying that stuff until the studios stop this insane policy. If you publish something you have to live with illegal copies, it has always been like this and it will always stay the same. If you cannot live with illegal copies you should not publish anything. But no matter what you do it is always wrong to let paying customers suffer because of others. Illegal copies are a business risk of a movie studio, not a risk it's customers have to bear.
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  10. Posts : 2,673
    Windows 10.4 Home 1703 x64 16288.1000
       29 Feb 2016 #10

    They tried it with games and failed, pirates play with cracks, while legitimate users face all kinds of problems.
    Just for the record: Once the servers are taken down, people can not play a game, failed connection = crash, etc.
    I have copied all bought DVDs to mkv with no menus, ADs and such, while a pirate can watch it ASAP, hassle free.
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