Groove music - i'm losing my mind! (indexing problem - probably)

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  1. Posts : 13
    Windows 10
       #1

    Groove music - i'm losing my mind! (indexing problem - probably)


    Groove Music - the default music app in windows 10 is behaving a bit weird lately.
    So, the symptoms are as follows: when I add a series of mp3s in my folder, which is set as default music location in Groove Music, the files aren't being added. Granted, since forever this app behaved in a manner that you had to wait a few seconds, perhaps a minute, to add the new files - the refresh of the library wasn't instant. but now it just doesn't refresh the library anymore. Or it does, after a few hours.

    So I investigated a bit and found out that I have to manually rebuild indexes (using this option: http://www.winbeta.org/sites/default...?itok=AXFIURoi), in order to get the new music into groove music. This seems absurd, since it never happened before.

    What are your suggestions? What's going on, what's wrong?
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  2. Posts : 34,896
    Win 10 Pro (1903) (2nd PC is 21H2)
       #2

    Hi, just takes a second for Groove to respond to copying them into the only folder (default) it 'watches' for me.. Have you checked it's actually watching the folder into which you're copying mp3's?

    For comparison, you could check how quickly after you copy a file into a folder that is an indexed location from one that is not is found by Cortana, 'My stuff'. That should tell you whether indexing is actually working. (And you can watch the index being updated, of course).
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  3. Posts : 13
    Windows 10
    Thread Starter
       #3

    dalchina said:
    Hi, just takes a second for Groove to respond to copying them into the only folder (default) it 'watches' for me.. Have you checked it's actually watching the folder into which you're copying mp3's?

    For comparison, you could check how quickly after you copy a file into a folder that is an indexed location from one that is not is found by Cortana, 'My stuff'. That should tell you whether indexing is actually working. (And you can watch the index being updated, of course).
    thanks for your response!

    Yes, the folder where I copy mp3s is being watched. If I do index rebuild, I immediately see the added folders in Groove Music, otherwise I don't.

    I'm afraid I don't understand exactly the second part of the response. How do I achieve this? Watching indexes being updated and all?
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  4. Posts : 34,896
    Win 10 Pro (1903) (2nd PC is 21H2)
       #4

    Ok, so you want to know, in general, if indexing (automatic) is actually working.
    Cortana search (My Stuff) uses indexed locations only (hmm!).
    So move sthg new into your indexed folders (note.. you need to know your indexed locations).
    Quickly click in Cortana's search box and type what you want to search for.
    Then click 'My Stuff' above the search box to search.

    The other idea is simply to
    - watch the indexing progressing, where you set the indexed locations. (Control Panel, Indexing Options)
    - then move sthg new into your indexed folders (note.. you need to know your indexed locations).
    - hopefully you will see the number of items indexed increase.
    Last edited by dalchina; 27 Dec 2015 at 13:19.
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  5. Posts : 13
    Windows 10
    Thread Starter
       #5

    dalchina said:
    Ok, so you want to know, in general, if indexing (automatic) is actually working.
    Cortana search (My Stuff) uses indexed locations only (hmm!).
    So move sthg new into your indexed folders (note.. you need to know your indexed locations).
    Quickly click in Cortana's search box and type what you want to search for.
    Then click 'My Stuff' above the search box to search.

    The other idea is simply to
    - watch the indexing progressing, where you set the indexed locations. (Control Panel, Indexing Options)
    - then move sthg new into your indexed folders (note.. you need to know your indexed locations).
    - hopefully you will see the number of items indexed increase.
    OK, done. It works. I created a file named "test2.txt" and placed it in some folder that is not being indexed - Cortana doesn't find it. Then I place it in that folder where I store my mp3s and Cortana finds it immediately. I'd like to exclude the issues with indexing, but rebuilding indexes always works with Groove Music... any other ideas I can check out?
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  6. Posts : 34,896
    Win 10 Pro (1903) (2nd PC is 21H2)
       #6

    Strange- so it seems indexing is working, it can't be an inappropriate or non-recognised file or file type 'cos it's picked up after manual indexing.

    You could obviously repeat what you've done with an mp3, for example: if Cortana finds the mp3, and Groove doesn't.. well.. hard to imagine what's going on.

    So, try re-registering Groove, and if that doesn't work, uninstall it and reinstall it.
    http://www.thewindowsclub.com/re-reg...ows-store-apps

    Uninstall Groove Music:
    Get-AppxPackage *zunemusic* | Remove-AppxPackage


    or-

    Step 1. First of all, download and install CCleaner for Windows 10. And then click on Tools and then click Uninstall tab to view all installed apps.

    Step 2. Now right-click on Groove Music app, click Uninstall, and then click OK for confirmation to uninstall the Groove Music.


    Reinstall:
    Step 3.
    Reinstall: launch the Windows 10 Store.

    Step 4. Now in the Store app, type Groove Music in the search box to see Groove Music in search results. Click on it.

    Step 5. Click Install button. If the store is showing that the app is installed msg instead of Install button, close the Store app once and run it again.

    Step 6. That’s it! Now clicking install button will download and install the Groove Music app on your Windows 10 PC.
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  7. Posts : 13
    Windows 10
    Thread Starter
       #7

    unfortunately, I did that already before joining this forum - reinstalled Groove Music via powershell, also did a refresh (Groove Music Library Refresh : Surface). In all fairness, it behaves weird: sometimes, it immediately recognizes the changes, sometimes it does not at all and I need to do a manual rebuild of indexes. There's no real pattern.
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  8. Posts : 34,896
    Win 10 Pro (1903) (2nd PC is 21H2)
       #8

    Well, unless there's other experience of the same sort of problem, either turn to a different media player or try an in-place upgrade reinstall- which would seem like a sledgehammer approach..
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  9. Posts : 13
    Windows 10
    Thread Starter
       #9

    OK now it didn't work again... so what I did, I went to the "indexing options", selected "modify" then looked for the newly added folder. It was there - checked - as if it was already indexed. Then I've UNCHECKED the newly added folder of mp3s, and checked it again. Clicked OK, and Groove Music started to update the library and added the new folder. Something must be seriously wrong. As if indexing is not being made real time - but when I tried your idea to create a new .txt file, it was found immediately
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  10. Posts : 34,896
    Win 10 Pro (1903) (2nd PC is 21H2)
       #10

    Hi, commendable persistence... (I've just fixed a significant search problem where Index Locations had vanished from the control panel). No accountable reason. But it happened to people with Win 7- which is where I got my solution, having understood basically what was missing).

    Under Index Locations, click Advanced, check that mp3 is ticked (all should be by default) and Index Properties Only.

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