Groove music - i'm losing my mind! (indexing problem - probably)

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  1. Posts : 13
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       #11

    Thanks again. Every setting is as you've mentioned: mp3 is checked, index properties only is selected.
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  2. Posts : 34,896
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       #12

    Ok, now we need to determine:
    1. is your mp3 file ever indexed
    2. is it indexed after a delay
    3. if it is delayed, why?

    So
    1. display task manager, noting the idle CPU usage
    2. also open Indexing Options (Control Panel, Indexing Options).
    Note the number of files indexing; check indexing is complete.
    3. move a new mp3 file into an indexed folder.
    4. Observe Indexing Options and how long it takes for the mp3 to be indexed, meanwhile noting CPU usage in the task manager.

    As you know, indexing is delayed until Windows deems conditions are quiet enough.

    Have you tried Troubleshooting there?
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  3. Posts : 34,896
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       #13

    Here's a different though pinched from another thread:
    This is for windows 7, but it applies to windows 10 too:
    It might be because of the security settings for that folder. For a folder and its content to be indexed, it must be configured with the System permission. Most folders already have this, but there are some cases where a folder might be missing theSystem permission.
    To add the System permission to a folder


    • Right-click the folder, click Properties, and then click the Security tab.
    • If you don't see System listed under Group or user names, click Edit.
    • Click Add, type System in the box that appears, and then click Check Names.
    • Under Matching names, click System, and then click OK until all of the open dialog boxes you've opened are closed.


    ... how relevant this is I don't know, 'cos you say the file is indexed eventually.

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  4. Posts : 13
    Windows 10
    Thread Starter
       #14

    System permission - i found this when i googled my issues before and I have set like it should be.

    The observing indexing idea is a good one and I've noticed that CPU is between 0 and 1%, and when I add new mp3s, CPU is idle, indexing is complete and the number of indexed files does not change.

    It appears as though when I paste something into the folder that is set to be indexed, nothing happens.
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  5. Posts : 13
    Windows 10
    Thread Starter
       #15

    OK I have some interesting developments!!!

    Although I have my custom music folder set to be indexed, when I paste something in there, nothing happens.
    HOWEVER, when I paste mp3s to ANY OTHER INDEXED FOLDER, changes happen immediately! As if though my custom folder is somehow corrupt or whatnot???
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  6. Posts : 34,896
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       #16

    KindaGivingUp said:
    OK I have some interesting developments!!!

    Although I have my custom music folder set to be indexed, when I paste something in there, nothing happens.
    HOWEVER, when I paste mp3s to ANY OTHER INDEXED FOLDER, changes happen immediately! As if though my custom folder is somehow corrupt or whatnot???
    Ok, good.. can you define 'custom music folder' and show its permissions? You might compare them with a folder which is indexed successfully.
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  7. Posts : 13
    Windows 10
    Thread Starter
       #17

    I used the term "custom", since all other folders are part of the windows (i.e. offline files, user, start menu folders). I have another hard drive for music files, and there I have folder named "custom music", which is also included in Groove Music. This custom folder behaves REALLY strange.

    Now, when I add a .txt file into the custom folder it gets indexed with like a 5 - 10 sec delay. Then I delete the file and the indexes just don't change. I've been waiting now for 5 minutes and I still have the same number of indexed files, even though I deleted it. However, when I do that in "official" folders (e.g. users/public/my documents), the number of files immediately increases and when I delete the file, the number immediately decreases.

    The permissions are virtually identical.
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  8. Posts : 13
    Windows 10
    Thread Starter
       #18

    I can't believe how it just doesn't recognize that I've deleted the files. When I search with Cortana, the results are there - but I deleted them. When I click them, nothing happens - they're deleted! But still indexed. Something is seriously wrong, right?
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  9. Posts : 13
    Windows 10
    Thread Starter
       #19

    I THINK I might have solved it, by doing this - got it from here: Search Index Broken, Rebuilding won't help - Windows 7 Help Forums.
    It might be too early to surely say, but so far so good. Will report back later.

    So, what I did was this:

    1. Click Windows + R (Opens run window)

    2. Type regedit and press Enter.

    3. In registry editor, windows locate: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows Search
    In the right pane, right click on SetupCompletedSuccessfully and click on Modify.

    NOTE: If SetupCompletedSuccessfully is not there, then in the right pane, right click on a empty area and click on ‘New’ select ‘DWORD (32 bit)’ Value and type SetupCompletedSuccessfully and press Enter.

    4. Type 0 and click on OK.
    NOTE: This is the number zero.

    5. Close Regedit.

    6. Restart the computer.
    NOTE:
    Resetting the registry to 0 will also remove the drivesfrom the list of “Included Locations” you may have set previously in Indexing Options.
    So you will want to add those back in through the “Modify” button. > Show All Locations > Check the drives you want indexed.
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  10. Posts : 34,896
    Win 10 Pro (1903) (2nd PC is 21H2)
       #20

    I was just thinking that you have now said your custom folder is on another disk.. - is that an external disk or another drive in your PC?

    I've no idea why that should make a difference.
    I've just tried copying a txt and mp3 into a test folder on a USB connected HDD and deleting them- in both cases the search index was amended in <1s

    My personal view- and that of others here- is not to rely on Windows search. Sad really..
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