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  1.    07 Feb 2016 #41
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    Quote Originally Posted by clayto View Post
    I have just started on Theodore's Fix for the broken apps --- with a considerable amount of trepidation.

    I have encountered an ERROR notification in Step 6, Setting Permission for App Packages. At the last instruction I get this message "Failed to enumerate objects in the container. Access is denied." I have gone through the procedure again, with care but with the same result."

    Can someone advise please? I have only a vague idea of what the message might mean.
    Double click the file first, grant admin permission on the prompt, then go back a folder, then try again to set permissions, worked for me.
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  2.    12 Feb 2016 #42
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    Windows 10 Home 64-bit and ANDROID Lollipop

    Bewinxed --- I followed your advice, which worked and I got almost to the end of the fix but my Apps and Store are still not working. It is very disappointing.

    I got the app files onto the desktop and transferred most of them to the Apps Folder. But it has made little difference. There was the odd change, like the Groove Tile getting its icon back and is no longer Zune, but it does not launch. The Other list is still there, with its @ names. Most of the affected Apps have blank tiles, if they have tiles. Weather has reappeared, but so far seems the only app to have recovered --- no People, Camera, Photos, Films, Calculator, etc.etc.

    Where do I go from here?
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  3.    12 Feb 2016 #43
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    Quote Originally Posted by clayto View Post
    Where do I go from here?
    I really suggest that neither you or anyone else follow the previous suggestions.

    You are downloading god knows what from some random blog which may (or may not) be genuine Microsoft software. Even if the guy is genuine do you imagine he will keep it up to date from his first post until the end of time? His instructions are also incorrect as they don't reset permissions.

    Honestly, don't do it. Do yourself a favour, download the ISO and do a repair install. At least then it didn't work due to a MS error.

    A repair install (after downloading the ISO) takes me about 20 minutes and you keep all your files and programs. You can see a tutorial here Repair Install Windows 10 with an In-place Upgrade - Windows 10 Forums

    If you like playing around and learning things then by all means go ahead. You can always to a repair install later if or when it doesn't work but please don't ask about "I downloaded something off the internet and ran some random powershell commands..." No-one will be able to help you even if they want to.
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  4.    12 Feb 2016 #44
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    Quote "and you keep all your files and programs." What? I have read many times that this is not correct at all! I have been told you lose all your programs and third-party apps, and may lose drivers too. All you keep is the Windows apps and files --- and my files are already on another drive. I have seen statements on both sides of this argument contradicted so often I really must find a way of getting an authoritative verdict before I take further steps.
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  5.    12 Feb 2016 #45
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    Quote Originally Posted by clayto View Post
    Quote "and you keep all your files and programs." What? I have read many times that this is not correct at all! I have been told you lose all your programs and third-party apps, and may lose drivers too. All you keep is the Windows apps and files --- and my files are already on another drive. I have seen statements on both sides of this argument contradicted so often I really must find a way of getting an authoritative verdict before I take further steps.
    Have you actually read the tutorial posted by Ix07 ?
    Repair Install Windows 10 with an In-place Upgrade


    Open the link and go to Step #13.
    What does the screenshot say ?
    Does it say "Keep personal files and apps " ?
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  6.    12 Feb 2016 #46
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    ...........I have seen statements on both sides of this argument contradicted so often I really must find a way of getting an authoritative verdict before I take further steps.........................

    There is NOTHING more authoritative than the tutorials compiled by Brink in these forums.
    I will go one step further. The tutorials compiled are more authoritative than the programmers in Microsoft.
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  7.    13 Feb 2016 #47
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    Windows 10 Home x64 (Laptop), Windows 10 Pro x64 (Desktop)

    I've done a repair install in Windows 10 and it does keep your apps & programs - provided you follow the tutorial! You may need to reset some user options such as desktop text & background settings.
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  8.    13 Feb 2016 #48
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    Windows 10 Home 64-bit and ANDROID Lollipop

    "If you are using Media creation tool to reinstall or repair Windows 10, all third party programs will be deleted. to know more please refer to section "Reset your PC" to know what Reset your PC option do on Windows 10."


    Microsoft Support Engineer in Microsoft Community Forum.

    Refer the section Reset your PC from the Microsoft article below.
    http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-10/windows-10-recovery-options


    Refer the section Reset your PC from the Microsoft article below.
    http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-10/windows-10-recovery-options




    • I have seen it said (here) I should follow the guidance from Microsoft but then when faced with something they do not accept they claim their advice is superior to Microsoft's. Hence I still do not know who to believe.


    Yes I have read the article referred to and much more besides. The screenshot cited is a major cause of the confusion, with misleading and ambiguous wording. "Keep personal files and apps " is NOT "keep personal files, programs and third-party apps". The terms 'apps' and 'programs' have different usages, though they are frequently (wrongly?} used interchangeably. The fact that the screenshot does not refer either to 'programs' or to 'third-party apps' is notable for its absence. It still leaves me concerned that "all third-party programs will be deleted." It will be too late to find out if it is true, after a re-install.

    David Pogue's "Missing Manual for Windows 10" says of "Reinstall, Leave Your Files" that "it erases all your programs, drivers, Windows settings, and programs you have installed". He adds that Windows displays a list of all the programs about to be deleted. But then displays a screenshot referring to apps! "Your apps will be removed."

    I am not taking sides in this argument, I dont have the expertise. What I am saying is that it is the technically well informed who are causing the confusion for the rest of us.
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  9.    13 Feb 2016 #49
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    Windows 10 Home x64 (Laptop), Windows 10 Pro x64 (Desktop)

    I've done a repair install twice - in Windows 8.1 & Windows 10. The repair install does keep third party programs provided you follow the repair Install Tutorial in this Forum. I used a USB repair disc from the Media Creation Tool for the Windows 10 repair install.

    Brink's Tutorial at Repair Install Windows 10 with an In-place Upgrade says "This tutorial will show you how to do a repair install of Windows 10 by performing an in-place upgrade without losing anything".
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  10.    13 Feb 2016 #50
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    To : Clayto

    What has Reset your PC has anything to do with Repair Install ?

    They are 2 different animals.
    Reset option only keeps your files and nothing else.
    Repair Install keep your files, settings and apps.


    ..................David Pogue's "Missing Manual for Windows 10" says of "Reinstall, Leave Your Files" that "it erases all your programs, drivers, Windows settings, and programs you have installed"................

    David Pogue is wrong. Period.

    Look. If you believe David Pogue, that's your choice.
    This is my last reply to this "discussion" and I am unsubscribing it after this reply.
    Last edited by davidhk; 13 Feb 2016 at 09:22.
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