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  1.    13 Nov 2015 #11
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    bobjoe, updating security wise, is not the same as what I am talking about. For a set period, yes Microsoft will still send security updates to certain software like XP & Office 2007, because there are some non-profits and government agencies that yes have not moved up to Windows 7 & Office 2010.

    Mainstream support has ended for XP, Vista, 7. Same as Office 2007, 2010 & Office Starter. Office 2007 only is supported for Extended updates until 2017. Until 2020 the others receive updates under the Extended portion of their Life Cycle. Microsoft Support Ending Dates
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  2.    13 Nov 2015 #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by bro67 View Post
    Your key is locked to your account and that is all that it is. But for accounting purposes. Microsoft has to show who downloaded what for free, since Microsoft is "Gifting" it to you. Also their servers tie the key with your name and your machine, once it is installed. That way you cannot just hand over the key to a bunch of people. You are only allowed one desktop and one laptop or tablet install under the key.
    Well technically Office 2007/2010 allow you to install on up to 3 computers under the license.
    Quote Originally Posted by NavyLCDR View Post
    Take the disc and empty USB flash drive to a computer that has a DVD and just copy the files over to the USB flash drive.
    Does this actually work? I thought DVDs were copy protected. I'll try this when I get home. Thanks.
    Quote Originally Posted by bro67 View Post
    bobjoe, updating security wise, is not the same as what I am talking about. For a set period, yes Microsoft will still send security updates to certain software like XP & Office 2007, because there are some non-profits and government agencies that yes have not moved up to Windows 7 & Office 2010.

    Mainstream support has ended for XP, Vista, 7. Same as Office 2007, 2010 & Office Starter. Office 2007 only is supported for Extended updates until 2017. Until 2020 the others receive updates under the Extended portion of their Life Cycle. Microsoft Support Ending Dates
    You first mentioned that it was EOL, now you're saying it's supported but only with security updates. So it's not EOL. I'm not sure what you mean by businesses not "moving up" to Office 2010. 2007 and 2010 are functionality-wise the same. I just use 2007 since it's what I've been using since 2008.
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  3.    13 Nov 2015 #13
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    Bobjoe again End Of Life is exactly that. It is no longer supported, sold, to be activated if someone never activated it before and just found it laying around.

    Extended Support means that once the software is installed, or activated and say you have to replace the hard drive and want to load it again on the new hard drive. The Activation key is now not only tied to your Microsoft Live account. It is also tied to the bios on the Motherboard, so that you cannot just take it and activate it on another machine, since it is no longer considered a supported software.

    All that Microsoft is doing, is allowing Security updates for any software that is under the Extended period. No updates to the base software whatsoever.

    I do not know how many times I have repeated this. But it is very clear what I have stated over and over.
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  4.    13 Nov 2015 #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobjoe View Post
    Well technically Office 2007/2010 allow you to install on up to 3 computers under the license.
    Incorrect, that has never been the case with Office Software. Now you could get around the 2 unit activation, when Microsoft used the old process for activating software, before 7 came out. After 7 was released, the activation system would only allow 2 installs, which is exactly stated in the Terms of Service, since Microsoft has been able to use Windows 98 to do the Activation check with any Microsoft installed software.

    The Terms state that you are only allowed one Desktop install and one Tablet or Laptop install.
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  5.    13 Nov 2015 #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by bro67 View Post
    Incorrect, that has never been the case with Office Software. Now you could get around the 2 unit activation, when Microsoft used the old process for activating software, before 7 came out. After 7 was released, the activation system would only allow 2 installs, which is exactly stated in the Terms of Service, since Microsoft has been able to use Windows 98 to do the Activation check with any Microsoft installed software.

    The Terms state that you are only allowed one Desktop install and one Tablet or Laptop install.
    Quote Originally Posted by bro67 View Post
    Bobjoe again End Of Life is exactly that. It is no longer supported, sold, to be activated if someone never activated it before and just found it laying around.

    Extended Support means that once the software is installed, or activated and say you have to replace the hard drive and want to load it again on the new hard drive. The Activation key is now not only tied to your Microsoft Live account. It is also tied to the bios on the Motherboard, so that you cannot just take it and activate it on another machine, since it is no longer considered a supported software.

    All that Microsoft is doing, is allowing Security updates for any software that is under the Extended period. No updates to the base software whatsoever.

    I do not know how many times I have repeated this. But it is very clear what I have stated over and over.
    I'm sorry but I don't think you guys know what you're talking about.

    End of Life means it's no longer supported with feature updates AND security updates. For example, Office 2003 is considered EOL since it no longer receive either types of updates.

    However, Office 2010 and 2007 still receive security updates, so they're not considered to be an EOL product.

    I bought Office 2007 Home and Student a few years ago. On the back of the box, it says that it's a license for up to THREE computers. So, I can have it installed on up to 3 computers, which I do.

    There's no such thing as "it won't activate anymore because it's old". Sorry but that's the most incorrect thing I've ever seen on this forum. Like I said before, about a month ago I installed Office 2007 from DVD on Windows 10 and it activated with no problems. Then, Windows Updates began downloading SP3 and the most recent security updates for it.

    Yes I know that Mainstream support for Office 2007 and 2010 is over. I never said it wasn't over. Office 2007 and 2010 are only receiving security updates at this point. But that doesn't mean that you can never activate it again if you were to buy a DVD license. That makes no sense. Office licenses for 2007 and 2010 are not tied to a Microsoft Account, you're thinking of Office 365 (or 2013/2016).
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  6.    13 Nov 2015 #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by bro67 View Post
    Incorrect, that has never been the case with Office Software.
    There were a few editions that allowed that.
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  7.    13 Nov 2015 #17
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    Movie DVDs are copy protected but most computer software DVDs aren't (except maybe games). OS DVDs are bootable so you can't just do a simple copy of the files on them to a USB thumb drive and use it, you need to make it bootable first. However, since Office disks aren't bootable, you can simply copy their files to the thumb drive, plug it in and run setup.

    If you have another computer on your network with a DVD drive, you could share it over the network and then put the install disk in the drive and run the install that way. A little slower but it shouldn't be a big deal since you only need to run setup once.

    You could always use an external DVD drive as well.

    As far as installing older copies of Office, I recently installed Office 2003 on a Windows 10 machine and it works fine.

    Why are you so dead set against creating an MS Account?
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  8.    13 Nov 2015 #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobjoe View Post
    There's no such thing as "it won't activate anymore because it's old". Sorry but that's the most incorrect thing I've ever seen on this forum.
    Then you need to read more on this forum! Things like "Your Windows 7 Product Key gets blocked when you update to Windows 10 and you can no longer use it to install Windows 7" or "Your Windows 7 Product Key gets blocked after 30 days after upgrading."
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  9.    13 Nov 2015 #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by strollin View Post
    Why are you so dead set against creating an MS Account?
    That I am trying to figure out also. Especially that once you have your computer connected to the Internet, Microsoft is going to get hardware and installed software info through BITS. Any web browsing is going to be tracked through your Gateway or your ISP. Even the so called anon VPN services. They still have to track what users are doing through their servers.
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  10.    13 Nov 2015 #20
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    https://www2.downloadoffice2010.micr...wnload.name.32

    I entered my 2007 office key and the link above was what was given to me... (MicrosoftInstaller.exe)

    Attachment 47878

    Even though Link is shown as 2010 - the exe installs 2007 Pro

    The purchase price is $0 - but the reason for MS account is to go through the store checkout..
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