Authy Alternatives for 2FA?

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  1. Posts : 238
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    Authy Alternatives for 2FA?


    Hi all
    just had an Authy update and it says it's reaching End of Life in March. Looking for recommendations for a replacement, preferably free ~ i only use it to enter the 6-digit TOTPs for Paypal and a couple other sites, and i want it on my desktop - lots of stuff, including Authy, want to do it via phone, and i'm not a person who lives on their phone so it's off most of the time. was wondering about MS Authenticator, but although it says there's a PC version i'll be damned if i can find a link to it, everything takes me to the phone options.
    i'll move to the mobile version of Authy if needs be, would probably save all the chore of trying to export and reset things up etc.

    TIA
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  2. Posts : 9,790
    Mac OS Catalina
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    Plenty of phone apps out there for 2fa.
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  3. Posts : 5,452
    Windows 11 Home
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    2fast – Two Factor Authenticator - do not forget to backup the database.
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  4. Posts : 295
    Windows 10 Pro
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    You have several options.

    You can use the Bitwarden password manager which is free, but to get some added perks like 2FA ability it's $10/year. That's 83 cents a month. Whatever all that is in Euros or pounds...

    You can use the password manager Keepass and install the Keepass OTP plug-in. but you must periodically backup its database all over hell and back.

    You can use the Aegis Android App, but you must periodically backup its database all over hell and back.

    The Keepass2Android password manager also has built-in 2FA ability.

    I use all that is mentioned believe it or not. My primary password manager on my computer is Keepass and I use the KeepassOTP plug-in for 2FA right on my computer. I also use and chose to pay for Bitwarden as a form of backup to Keepass and another backup to my 2FA secret keys. I also have the Aegis App installed in my phone and use Keepass2Android on my phone as well. It can be a pain syncing everything, but it's how I roll. ALL have different master passwords I have committed to memory only. I do not write anything down, EVER! I have a very unique and hard to crack way of creating passwords...

    All of the software I have mentioned is free and open source software so the code can be looked at, and compiled and used by you if you know how. So there are no shenanigans in the code since anyone can view the code.

    You don't need to use some company for your 2FA needs. 2FA/OTP (One Time Password) is just a secret key that's a base32 number and based on time of 30 seconds. All you do is import that base32 secret key to Aegis, Bitwarden, Keepass, etc and you're good to go. But you'll have to do what I did when I ditched Authy and that is go into each account where Authy is used for 2FA and disable 2FA. Then re-enable 2FA using the password manager or 2FA option of your choice I have posted about.

    I used to use Authy myself until I learned just what 2FA was and the free and open source capabilities out there. So yeah, I got that e-mail as well. And BTW - Twilio (the owner of Authy) is a MASSIVE crap company just to let you know, and I'll stop there. Well, the former CEO looks like a dark Fester from the Addams Family, lets just put it that way. LOL And the company is going to hell in a hand basket...

    KeePass Password Safe (You MUST backup its database yourself. That's a good thing. You're in control of YOUR data. Chose ChaCha20 as the encryption and Argon2id for the hash with an entropy of at least 100 when you create the database. Don't go overrboard otherwise it'll take a manoumental time logging in. That's what the Argon hash does. It slows down cracking ability... The Bcrypt has does the same thing, but Argon is the latest and greatest. The database file is a .kdbx file found in the Keepass directory. You back that file up to USB drives, other hard drives, optical media, cloud, you name it. I take it a step further and encrypt it again with a different password with the 7z archive executable format or something else I have running here that's beyond the scope of this post).

    Here are all the plug-ins. Plugins - KeePass

    KeepassOTP: Releases . Rookiestyle/KeePassOTP . GitHub (Go to the right under "Releases" and download the .plgx file. That is the plug-in file. Then copy that to the Plugins folder inside the Keepass directory. Now you have added 2FA ability to Keepass.

    Aegis Authenticator - Secure 2FA app for Android (I would refrain from biometrics. In all devices actually. In the U.S. under the U.S. Constitution, you can not be compelled to give up a password due to 5th Amendment protections about self-incrimination. But biometrics is a whole other story and law enforcement CAN compel someone to hand over their finger scan, eye scan, etc. Not sure about the Magna Carta and whatnot).

    GitHub - PhilippC/keepass2android: Password manager app for Android (The .apk Android App file can be side loaded into your phone or downloaded from Google Play). In addition to Google Play, check out F-Droid... I'm assuming you and others use Android.

    The password manager trusted by millions | Bitwarden (I have read a lot about various password manager offerings out there (mostly at Wikipedia) and among them all, I found they lacked this or that, are controlled by some company, are not open source or have been hacked to no end. At this time I recommend Bitwarden. Bitwarden . GitHub

    Any questions ask. Here's my Bitwarden video. I should do one on Keepass and Aegis.


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  5. Posts : 10,741
    Windows 11 Workstation x64
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    Only the desktop version of Authy is affected by the AOL issue, but the phone applications will continue to function normally.
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  6. Posts : 295
    Windows 10 Pro
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    wolfie138 said:
    Hi all
    just had an Authy update and it says it's reaching End of Life in March. Looking for recommendations for a replacement, preferably free ~ i only use it to enter the 6-digit TOTPs for Paypal and a couple other sites, and i want it on my desktop
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  7. Posts : 33
    Win 10 222H2 19045.3803
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    RoboForm has an authenticator but it will have to be set up for each site. I assume I will have to switch 2FA off at each site and then back on again to get a 2FA key. It's all explained on their website.
    Last edited by kelper; 19 Feb 2024 at 13:00.
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  8. Posts : 238
    win10 20H2
    Thread Starter
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    bro67 said:
    Plenty of phone apps out there for 2fa.
    and i want it on my desktop

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    thank you @F22 Simpilot, i'll look into that and your video.
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  9. Posts : 33
    Win 10 222H2 19045.3803
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    RoboForm is for desktop and phone
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  10. Posts : 295
    Windows 10 Pro
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    wolfie138 said:
    @F22 Simpilot, i'll look into that and your video.
    You're welcome. I may do a video on Keepass here today sometime. Keepass, while it may be complicated to some, is really not. But Bitwarden would perhaps be the absolute easiest for a good password manager and for 2FA. Though, you have to pay for Bitwarden for the 2FA ability. It's 10 American a year which according to Google is about 9 Euros and cents a year. Minus possible taxes or whatever...
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