Is there a way to change UWP program install dates?

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  1. Posts : 1,746
    Windows 10 Pro x64 22H2
       #11

    garlin said:
    Casual users can be forgiven for not knowing the difference.

    Store apps (for now) are all UWP packages. But UWP includes Windows built-in system apps, like Settings, which can't be removed by users or downloaded from Store. All Store apps are optional, and can be removed or reinstalled.

    A handful of Store apps like Edge or Adobe Acrobat, aren't UWP, but MS advertises them in the Store.

    If your running a program that's missing the Win 7-style screen decorations, chances are it's UWP.
    I'm sure the OP was not referring to those apps like settings or WD app, because these aren't listed anywhere and there i no install date for these but it's not bad that you mentioned them for difference.

    Confusing part is:
    1. 'non windows' store apps
    2. non 'windows store apps'

    or perhaps by "windows" it is meant, store apps not published by MS?

    In either case, none of these 2 are clear because for 1) it's not windows app and for 2) is not app but desktop program, both of which are not UWP apps anyway.

    My point was that googling for either of these 2 cannot bring any useful search results since both are unrelated to windows apps even if "windows" is mentioned, hence why the OP was probably not able to find anything online.

    garlin said:
    A handful of Store apps like Edge or Adobe Acrobat, aren't UWP, but MS advertises them in the Store.
    I know there is Adobe acrobat desktop program and there is also Adobe acrobat store app edition, the one offered in store is UWP app and is very different from desktop edition, didn't test for MS edge but I'm pretty sure same applies.
    I'm not able to find any desktop program in windows store.

    Ghot said:
    I have lots of non Windows Store Apps.

    Things like...

    7-zip
    Paintshop Pro 7.04
    AnyBurn
    Karen's Replicator
    Macrium Reflect
    Firefox
    ...and many more.
    Yeah

    please try to google out for "apps vs programs" or "apps vs applications" or "difference between apps and programs" etc.
    It's unbelievable how people equate these as same and very little or no background is given for these terms.

    It's feels like googling for "a car vs tractor" and finding results where people tell you there is no difference because both have an engine.
    This planet has gone mad.
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  2. Posts : 15,497
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       #12

    zebal said:
    I'm sure the OP was not referring to those apps like settings or WD app, because these aren't listed anywhere and there i no install date for these but it's not bad that you mentioned them for difference.

    Confusing part is:
    1. 'non windows' store apps
    2. non 'windows store apps'

    or perhaps by "windows" it is meant, store apps not published by MS?

    In either case, none of these 2 are clear because for 1) it's not windows app and for 2) is not app but desktop program, both of which are not UWP apps anyway.

    My point was that googling for either of these 2 cannot bring any useful search results since both are unrelated to windows apps even if "windows" is mentioned, hence why the OP was probably not able to find anything online.


    I know there is Adobe acrobat desktop program and there is also Adobe acrobat store app edition, the one offered in store is UWP app and is very different from desktop edition, didn't test for MS edge but I'm pretty sure same applies.
    I'm not able to find any desktop program in windows store.



    Yeah

    please try to google out for "apps vs programs" or "apps vs applications" or "difference between apps and programs" etc.
    It's unbelievable how people equate these as same and very little or no background is given for these terms.

    It's feels like googling for "a car vs tractor" and finding results where people tell you there is no difference because both have an engine.
    This planet has gone mad.
    That is the evolving nature of languages. Apps is a term that is now just generic slang. Googling is pointless as will just say whatever the author of web page thinks.

    I was pedantic about an app was uwp and a program was a win32 applicatition at one point, but cannot be bothered as app as slang now means anything that can be executed. In the end, does it blinking matter?

    I had same discussion where guys were arguing over use of term drive and disk.

    They are interchangeable - who cares?
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  3. Posts : 1,746
    Windows 10 Pro x64 22H2
       #13

    cereberus said:
    I had same discussion where guys were arguing over use of term drive and disk.

    They are interchangeable - who cares?
    I'm aware of the "drive vs disk" thread and it only confirms why confusion happens.

    I think anyone who attempts to use google for such falsely interchangeable terms should care for it's own sake, if it whishes to find anything useful online.

    Obviously nobody has a ready to use solution for the OP, therefore since google search is affected by confusion maybe explaining why it doesn't work might help to find a solution by adjusting search terms.

    I think that's a good reason why one should care.
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  4. Posts : 23,290
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       #14

    zebal said:
    Yeah

    please try to google out for "apps vs programs" or "apps vs applications" or "difference between apps and programs" etc.
    It's unbelievable how people equate these as same and very little or no background is given for these terms.

    It's feels like googling for "a car vs tractor" and finding results where people tell you there is no difference because both have an engine.
    This planet has gone mad.


    I Googled... the only difference I see is marketing BS.
    It's easy to find examples that will break every definition.
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  5. Posts : 1,746
    Windows 10 Pro x64 22H2
       #15

    yesir360 said:
    where you can change the values for their InstallDate.
    It seems you can't by using registry.
    Install date is stored in:

    Code:
    HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Classes\Local Settings\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\AppModel\Repository\Families
    Each subkey of an app has an "InstallTime" value, which is a FILETIME formatted value.

    You can change this time but this will not change the app's install date in settings app.

    If you whish to experiment, you'll need open registry as Admin, take ownership of the app's subkey grant full control to Admin and change InstallTime value.

    To know which value to insert in powershell run this:

    Code:
    [datetime]::new(2014, 6, 1).ToFileTimeUtc()
    This example will get you value for 6/1/2014 date which you can then insert into InstallTime value in registry as decimal, however even after reboot it will not work.

    To restore modified registry key to default, reset the app in settings app, this will restore the value as well as modified registry permissions.
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  6. Posts : 15,497
    Windows10
       #16

    zebal said:
    I'm aware of the "drive vs disk" thread and it only confirms why confusion happens.

    I think anyone who attempts to use google for such falsely interchangeable terms should care for it's own sake, if it whishes to find anything useful online.

    Obviously nobody has a ready to use solution for the OP, therefore since google search is affected by confusion maybe explaining why it doesn't work might help to find a solution by adjusting search terms.

    I think that's a good reason why one should care.
    Totally disagree - it is only pedantics who care about such things - the rest of us get on with our life.
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