Unsolicited WinZip v26.0 trial over-riding previous noupdate setting

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

  1. Posts : 34
    Windows 10 Pro
       #1

    Unsolicited WinZip v26.0 trial over-riding previous noupdate setting


    I have recently noticed that my paid-for WinZip 19.5 'Pro' (Win 10) has been replaced by an unsolicited trial version of Winzip v26.0

    Also, after resetting the registry noupdating entry myself from 0 to 1, to prevent updating of WinZip 19.5, this has been over-ridden - see screenshots:

    Unsolicited WinZip v26.0 trial over-riding previous noupdate setting-windows-registry-winzip-no-update-set-1-after-v19_5-installation-vs-over-ride-21-sep-19-s.jpg

    If anyone knows how to prevent the unsolicited updating of WinZip v19.5, which functions satisfactorily under Windows 10 Pro, then I would be pleased to hear more.
      My Computer

  2. Try3's Avatar
    Posts : 9,437
    Windows 10 Home x64 Version 21H2 Build 19044.1288
       #2

    Dave,

    I have WinZip 18.5 Pro [paid for version] so not quite the same as yours.

    I have Do not check for updates set in
    WinZip,
    Settings menu,
    WinZip options,
    Miscellaneous
    and no update checks take place.

    My
    HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Nico Mak Computing\WinZip\UpdateCheck
    NoUpdateChecking
    entry has the Data
    0
    which is the opposite of what you have now set yours to.

    Of course, this might differ between versions but I doubt it. You might want to check as it appears that you have now allowed checking for updates.



    As for the trial version you now have running, that might well have been installed as part of a bundle within some other utility.
    - Even if I deliberately run the WinZip Check for update now facility, nothing gets installed automatically.
    - It shows me a dialog and its button takes me to their website where I am regaled with fairy stories about how wonderful the new version is and do I want to buy it. Even then nothing gets installed automatically.
    Comparing the Modified date-time of your C:\Program Files\WinZip folder to that of others might help you find out what else was installed/updated at the same date-time and might therefore be the culprit


    All the best,
    Denis
      My Computer


  3. Posts : 34
    Windows 10 Pro
    Thread Starter
       #3

    Denis - many thanks for the message/suggestions.

    The WinZip v26.0 installation last night was immediately preceded by adxregistrator.log [+] in C:\Users\Default\Documents\Add-in Express, which appears to be an Office 2016 add-in 'winzip express for office' (I do not recall adding it myself). So for Word 2016 there is a menu option File : 'Zip and Share (WinZip Express)'

    Update/s: I have uninstalled 'WinZip Express' in Office 2016 - it was evident for both Word and Excel and had to be removed as an add-in for each.

    Anyway I have uninstalled WinZip v26 trial, reinstalled v19.5, and set via menu WinZip Options > Settings > Updates to 'Do not check for updates'

    Checking afterwards, registry HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Nico Mak Computing\WinZip\UpdateCheck shows

    NoUpdateChecking = 0

    However this is not consistent with 'How do I completely disable "Check for Updates"? WinZip - Knowledgebase':

    "The Check for Updates feature can be disabled by changing the registry string value NoUpdateChecking from 0 to 1 in HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Nico Mak Computing\WinZip\UpdateCheck

    But I shall leave NoUpdateChecking = 0 and see what happens over the next day or so.

    Dave.

    [+] adxregistrator.log in C:\Users\Default\Documents\Add-in Express

    Add-in Express Registrator Log File: 09/21/2021 22:09:46

    Installation directory: C:\Program Files\WinZip\
    Registrator version: 7.2.4055.0
    Operating System: Microsoft Professional (build 9200), 64-bit
    Process Owner: System
    Command Line: "C:\Program Files\WinZip\adxregistrator.exe" /uninstall="C:\Program Files\WinZip\WinZipExpressForOffice.dll" /privileges=user
    Run 'As Administrator': Yes
    Process Elevated: Yes
    Integrity Level: System
    UAC (User Account Control): On
    --------------------------------------------------------------
    22:09:46 0580 Starting the add-in unregistration process.
    22:09:46 0580 Loading mscoree.dll
    22:09:46 0580 Success.
    22:09:46 0580 .NET Framework installation directory:
    22:09:46 0580 The latest version of .NET Framework: 'v4.0.30319'
    22:09:46 0580 Loading CLR: v4.0.30319.
    22:09:46 0580 Calling CLRCreateInstance method.
    22:09:46 0580 Success.
    22:09:46 0580 Calling GetRuntime method.
    22:09:46 0580 Success.
    22:09:46 0580 Checking if the hosting API of .NET Framework v4.0 beta is installed.
    22:09:46 0580 The hosting API is up to date.
    22:09:46 0580 Calling GetInterface method for the CorRuntimeHost interface.
    22:09:46 0580 Success.
    22:09:46 0580 Starting CLR...
    22:09:46 0580 Success.
    22:09:46 0580 Getting the CLR version.
    22:09:46 0580 The CLR v4.0.30319 has been initialized successfully.
    22:09:46 0580 Creating a new domain setup.
    22:09:46 0580 Success.
    22:09:46 0580 The 'shadow copy' is disabled.
    22:09:46 0580 Creating a new application domain.
    22:09:46 0580 Success.
    22:09:46 0580 Getting the base directory for the domain.
    22:09:46 0580 Success. The directory is 'C:\Program Files\WinZip\'.
    22:09:46 0580 Searching for the Add-in Express core library.
    22:09:46 0580 Success. The 'AddinExpress.MSO.2005.dll' file is found.
    22:09:46 0580 Creating an instance of the 'AddinExpress.Deployment.ADXRegistrator' class.
    22:09:46 0580 Assembly identity is 'AddinExpress.MSO.2005'.
    22:09:46 0580 Success.
    22:09:46 0580 Unwrapping the instance of the 'AddinExpress.Deployment.ADXRegistrator' class.
    22:09:46 0580 Success.
    22:09:46 0580 Calling the managed unregistration procedure.
    22:09:46 1056 Connecting to the application domain of the Add-in Express loader.
    22:09:46 1056 Success.
    22:09:46 1056 Loading the 'winzipexpressforoffice.dll' assembly.
    22:09:46 1056 Success.
    22:09:46 1056 Unregistering the 'winzipexpressforoffice.dll' assembly (user).
    22:09:46 1056 The ' winzipexpressforoffice.dll' assembly has been unregistered successfully.
    22:09:46 0580 Success.
    22:09:46 0580 The add-in unregistration process is completed with HRESULT = 0.
    Last edited by Dave xxx; 4 Weeks Ago at 07:00. Reason: Uninstall WinZip Express in Office 2016
      My Computer

  4. Try3's Avatar
    Posts : 9,437
    Windows 10 Home x64 Version 21H2 Build 19044.1288
       #4

    Dave,

    You do know that you are not using
    C:\Users\Default
    don't you?
    This folder is only used in the process of creating new users.


    Denis
      My Computer


  5. Posts : 34
    Windows 10 Pro
    Thread Starter
       #5

    Try3 said:
    You do know that you are not using
    C:\Users\Default
    don't you? This folder is only used in the process of creating new users.
    Yes - anything that appears there is not consciously of my making !
      My Computer

  6. Try3's Avatar
    Posts : 9,437
    Windows 10 Home x64 Version 21H2 Build 19044.1288
       #6

    I have now done the job properly


    Dave,

    I found the article
    How do I completely disable Check for Updates - WinZip Knowledgebase

    It puzzled me so I conducted some Registry checks of my own. Here are my results:-


    1 AutoCheck weekly
    Unsolicited WinZip v26.0 trial over-riding previous noupdate setting-autocheck-weekly.png
    AskFirst 0
    AutoMode 1
    CurrentPeriod [also Period] 7



    2 AutoCheck daily
    Unsolicited WinZip v26.0 trial over-riding previous noupdate setting-autocheck-daily.png
    AskFirst 0
    AutoMode 1
    CurrentPeriod [also Period] 1



    3 Ask before checking
    Unsolicited WinZip v26.0 trial over-riding previous noupdate setting-ask-before-checking.png
    AskFirst 1
    AutoMode 1
    CurrentPeriod [also Period] 1 or 7 {reflecting whatever happened to be the last setting used}


    4 Do not check
    Unsolicited WinZip v26.0 trial over-riding previous noupdate setting-do-not-check.png
    AskFirst 0
    AutoMode 0
    CurrentPeriod [also Period] 1 or 7 {reflecting whatever happened to be the last setting used}


    5 NoUpdateChecking {Registry entry}
    Unsolicited WinZip v26.0 trial over-riding previous noupdate setting-noupdatechecking.png
    The entire Check for updates block of WinZip Options disappears and this, to me, illustrates its intended effect.
    - I have left mine in this condition so I can post back if I ever see any update checks taking place.


    I also played around with the other settings before using NoUpdateChecking. The other settings are reversible so the changes shown in my diagrams 1-4 [only] could equally well have been achieved by changing the relevant Registry entries as by using WinZip options.
    - This reversibility is not true for all Windows Registry entries so I deliberately worked through to check they worked in this case.


    All the best,
    Denis
    Last edited by Try3; 4 Weeks Ago at 08:59.
      My Computer



  7. Posts : 34
    Windows 10 Pro
    Thread Starter
       #7

    Denis - many thanks for that.

    For comparison, I have appended the 'no update' details for WinZip v19.5, which are not consistent with your version, nor with the knowledgebase article.

    Dave.

    Unsolicited WinZip v26.0 trial over-riding previous noupdate setting-winzip-v19_5-updates-registry-settings-22-sep-2021.jpg
      My Computer

  8. Try3's Avatar
    Posts : 9,437
    Windows 10 Home x64 Version 21H2 Build 19044.1288
       #8

    Dave,

    Your UI looks to me to be operating in the same way as mine.
    - Your diagram corresponds to my diagram 4.
    - The Registry entry NoUpdateChecking only changes if you manually edit the Registry entry - it is not controlled by the UI.

    The 'Do not check for updates' setting made in your UI controls the Registry entry AutoMode not the NoUpdateChecking entry.
    The NoUpdateChecking, if set to 1, turns off the Update settings in the UI.

    I expect that, if you manually set NoUpdateChecking to 1, your Settings, Updates tab will be cleared of many or all of its contents.


    Denis
      My Computer


  9. Posts : 34
    Windows 10 Pro
    Thread Starter
       #9

    FYI WinZip 19.5 has been automatically replaced this morning by WinZip v26.0 [+] and contrary to the original 'noupdate' preference. The previous registration data (for v19.5) is not accepted, see screenshot.

    I don't there is anything else to say other than to regard the process of replacing a paid-for functioning version having no obvious time limit, with a time-limited trial version, as sharp practice.

    [+] Add-in Express Registrator Log File: 09/24/2021 08:57:57

    Installation directory: C:\Program Files\WinZip\
    Registrator version: 7.2.4055.0
    Operating System: Microsoft Professional (build 9200), 64-bit
    Process Owner: System
    Command Line: "C:\Program Files\WinZip\adxregistrator.exe" /uninstall="C:\Program Files\WinZip\WinZipExpressForOffice.dll" /privileges=user
    Run 'As Administrator': Yes
    Process Elevated: Yes
    Integrity Level: System
    UAC (User Account Control): On

    [cut]

    Unsolicited WinZip v26.0 trial over-riding previous noupdate setting-winzip-v26-v19_5-registration-rejected-24-sep-2021.jpg
      My Computer

  10. Try3's Avatar
    Posts : 9,437
    Windows 10 Home x64 Version 21H2 Build 19044.1288
       #10

    Dave,

    Mine [v18.5] is still intact.

    I don't know what
    adxregistrator.exe
    is. I don't have it in my C:\Program Files\WinZip folder.


    Did you re-try the NoUpdateChecking [=1] Registry item?
    Try3 said:
    I expect that, if you manually set NoUpdateChecking to 1, your Settings, Updates tab will be cleared of many or all of its contents.
    That's the state mine is in.
    Try3 said:
    5 NoUpdateChecking {Registry entry}
    Unsolicited WinZip v26.0 trial over-riding previous noupdate setting-noupdatechecking.png
    The entire Check for updates block of WinZip Options disappears and this, to me, illustrates its intended effect.
    - I have left mine in this condition so I can post back if I ever see any update checks taking place.

    All the best,
    Denis
      My Computer


 
Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

  Related Discussions
Our Sites
Site Links
About Us
Windows 10 Forums is an independent web site and has not been authorized, sponsored, or otherwise approved by Microsoft Corporation. "Windows 10" and related materials are trademarks of Microsoft Corp.

Designer Media Ltd
All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:28.
Find Us




Windows 10 Forums