W/o program, how to Windows 10 Search Fast (minutes not hours)

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  1. Posts : 19
    Windows 10
       #1

    W/o program, how to Windows 10 Search Fast (minutes not hours)


    W/o program, how to deal with Windows 10 Search ¹ Slow ² AQS doc obsolete w/o notice ³ cmd output to file but not as powerful?

    With CMD output to file, I can sometimes but not often, tolerate cmd-Search during off-work but more importantly, CMD is missing:
    1. ez support for Unicode
    2. file properties such as comments

    Following is what I found Windows 10 Search need improvement:
    [LIST=1][*]AQS parameter names can be replaced w/o Microsoft notice[*]Absence of output to Text file capabilty of CMD [*]Poor support for scripting[*]Combination of Search Terms limited[*]

    My company PC is 3 year old DELL laptop (16GB Ram, 400GB SSD). Windows 10 File Search is slow (often hours).
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  2. Posts : 18,044
    Win 10 Pro 64-bit v1909 - Build 18363 Custom ISO Install
       #2

    Hello @sunny123,

    Have a look at this => Search in File Explorer in Windows 10

    Also, have a look at the Related Tutorials at the BOTTOM of the Tutorial [ there are quite a few ], as they may also help to narrow down the search results and times.



    BTW, you also have another thread similar to this. It will be confusing because members who have replied to your problem in either thread will NOT know what advice you have already been given, what you have already been asked to perform, what you have performed, and what the results were!

    I would also put a link to this thread in the other thread, and vice versa. This way, members who are willing to help you can also refer to this thread to see what has, and what hasn't, been performed.

    i hope this helps.
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  3. Posts : 16,955
    Windows 10 Home x64 Version 22H2 Build 19045.4170
       #3

    You can speed up searches by making sure that your indexing options match what you want to search.Add or Remove Locations for Search Index - TenForumsTutorials

    And you can prevent re-indexing slowing down i.e. allowing it to proceed whether you are using the computer or not.
    Denis
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  4. Posts : 43,010
    Win 10 Pro (22H2) (2nd PC is 22H2)
       #4

    Windows 10 File Search is slow (often hours).
    Hi, let's start by taking a simple case- a data disk. Let's call it D:

    If D: is not fully indexed, then searching D: starting by opening D: in file explorer will be slow (dreaded green progress bar).
    If it is fully indexed, search will be near enough instant.

    Now consider your system disk. Even with enhanced indexing (in Settings) starting a search from e.g. C: or This PC again is slow as some elements are not indexed. Only if everything below the point at which file explorer is open is indexed is the search instant.

    I tried an experiment on this PC and indexed all of C: - the number of indexed items rose from something like 13000 to 400,000. As you might expect, search was then instant.
    I progressively eliminated folders comprising the O/S, checking each time how fast search was starting from C: -instant.
    I reduced the number if indexed items to a little more than 13000 by continuing that.

    Result: I can open file explorer at C: and perform a content search - the result is instant. I had never seen that before.

    The one thing I don't know is exactly what the difference in what was being indexed was.
    Search indexing and windows search is something for which MS has, all too understandably, got a bad reputation.

    I'm afraid I don't understand the rest of your question given the way it's expressed. I don't know exactly where your reference to CMD fits in.

    Are you trying to start the search from a command prompt, or after a search is complete, use a command prompt to write the search results to a file, or what? Too confusing for me- sorry.

    2. file properties such as comments
    If a file has a comment field e.g. aardvark then search syntax

    comments:aardvark

    will find it.
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  5. Posts : 1,203
    11 Home
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    Trying to match your indexing options to what you want to search compares best to trying to match roads to a square shaped wheel: it's just another uphill battle. So then, here's how a round wheel looks like.
    https://www.voidtools.com

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  6. Posts : 16,955
    Windows 10 Home x64 Version 22H2 Build 19045.4170
       #6

    hdmi said:
    Trying to match your indexing options to what you want to search compares best to trying to match roads to a square shaped wheel: it's just another uphill battle. So then, here's how a round wheel looks like.
    If the OP's indexing options do not provide for the folder paths that are to be searched then searches will be slow.

    Denis
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  7. Posts : 1,203
    11 Home
       #7

    Try3 said:
    If the OP's indexing options do not provide for the folder paths that are to be searched then searches will be slow.

    Denis
    It took more than 6 whole minutes just to rebuild the index of my C: drive, which is an M.2 SATA SSD that is 512GB and currently holding only 272GB of data. If I plug in a small bunch of USB 3.0 harddrives each one of which is a few TB, then if I tell it to start indexing those, its little magnifying glass will keep spinning for hours on end, because it really is THAT amazingly slow, which immediately explains why I use that little search program called "Everything": it is very lightweight and it's lightning fast, not to mention the fact it's free and doesn't contain adware or spyware so, in short, I avoid Windows Search simply because torture is not for me.
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  8. Posts : 43,010
    Win 10 Pro (22H2) (2nd PC is 22H2)
       #8

    I use both. Windows search provides content indexing.

    I don't use Everything because I use a free 3rd party tool that uses lower resources than that and doesn't hang on to USB drives making them hard to remove.

    Discussing 3rd party tools has nothing to do with the question asked, but that's what any question about Windows search ends up with.

    I still have no idea what parts of the original question mean. And no response from the poster, suggesting it's not worth posting anything more.
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  9. Posts : 16,955
    Windows 10 Home x64 Version 22H2 Build 19045.4170
       #9

    I think the OP won't post again until after we're all tucked up for the night.

    By the way, the OP also has a thread on a related issue - How to redirect Windows 10 File Search Result to Text File? (w/o CMD)

    I don't want to jump the gun on either thread but, for this one, I do wonder if network searching is involved.

    See you,
    Denis
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  10. Posts : 19
    Windows 10
    Thread Starter
       #10

    TQ for helping. I’ll add details about the situation:
    1. Company restrict me from Advanced-Index option
    2. Windows 10 search, even after indexing (option set by company) is:
    2.1. Much slower than CMD search but w/o capability to re-direct search result to Text File (but CMD search can), what alternative other wait (with CMD, I can come back next day) ? Only alternative I can think of is to narrow down search criteria elaborated below.
    2.2. Windows Search Scripting (AQS) is not as ez as CMD for following:
    2.3. Microsoft seems to discourage scripting and prefer menu-type search definition. I prefer scripting b/c I can save them for future use (I don’t only search for one type of file)
    2.3.1. Is there web site(s) other than Microsoft that:
    2.3.1.1. list up-to-date parameters ? Microsoft website on AQS isn’t up-to-date
    2.3.2. Complex (not basic) use of combining parameters. Combining operations limited to 1 operation? Example: “AND” is allowed but not “AND OR”
    2.4. AQS is better than CMD for:
    2.4.1. Unicode which I need for shorter and easier-to-read file names
    2.4.2. File Properties (such as tag) but is there up-to-date

    With Windows 10, I found search file name is much much faster than file content. As result, I have been spending much time figuring out file names to speed up search.
    Programming such as Powershell overcome most , if not all, of above challenges. However, company restrict programming.
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