"All Apps" Menu Items Do Not Respond to Right-click

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  1. Posts : 104
    Windows 10
       #1

    "All Apps" Menu Items Do Not Respond to Right-click


    As with the right side of my Start Menu, all icons on my user-installed software picks have also disappeared on the "All Apps" menu. And I am unable to make any of the choices a right-click should offer. Nothing happens if a right-click is used, even on Windows supplied menu items. I cannot uninstall, pin to Start Menu or Task Bar, do nothing that should be available. This all worked as advertised until today, about 3 days into using the system.

    Combined with the basically poor design of the "All Apps" menu (I know I am not the only person in the world who had Start Menu categories more than on level deep) this is not good. But it is fun searching for the sub-category applications, all glommed together alphabetically. NOT! This inability of the Start Menu to even be stable (Stable-2, at that, for you Apollo Mission fans) is making a roll-back to W7 look better by the hour. Maybe when this nationwide Gamma Test is completed, Windows 10.1 will be released with some of these problems corrected.
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  2. Posts : 3,367
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    ARYLIOA said:
    .....is making a roll-back to W7 look better by the hour. Maybe when this nationwide Gamma Test is completed, Windows 10.1 will be released with some of these problems corrected.
    How about a clean install of 10? Once you have made sure everything is backed up you want to keep you might just want to consider that option since a great deal of the upgrade installs you first see are going to be... "BUGGY"! buggy buggy buggy buggy... and on like a broken record! The initial upgrade here was also found the way as far as not being able to get the more important softwares like the AV program to even go on without an immediate program crash!

    But the problem of not being able to bring up a right click menu when right clicking on the Apps or when having that opened up and still not being able to is NORMAL for 10! That's right! There is no right click option as far as the Apps are concerned so far after seeing three upgrade installs followed by three clean installs on two different systems. When browsing to a program folder and right clicking on the "exe" file that starts it up that should immediately see a right click menu however with the option to pin to either or both the task bar and Start menu's tile section!

    During the first week once I got the initial upgrade on finding out I had left a pair of storage drives plugged which by the way when passed along to someone else not able to see 10 go on I got the report back the next day that person found 10 had gone on automatically overnight! I then expressed the need for a possible Upgrade to Repair type install if he found the first BUGGY! as well as then being able to see a clean install replace the upgrade.

    As for the second case with a single drive until now that is(one of those two storage drives from the main case now installed for restoration of a 7 image to that) was to first see the 7 primary shrunk down and a clean install of 10 which wouldn't activate quite yet until seeing the upgrade over the 7 install there which fortunately had a full system image backup in storage waiting now for three full years! Just getting done now downloading some 110 628mb updates since the last time was what? July 26, 2012 almost three years to the day as 10's launch with 7 now the secondary OS on the remote case used for testing!
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  3. Posts : 104
    Windows 10
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    Night Hawk said:
    How about a clean install of 10? ..........

    This is a clean install. For all the process that was involved in that on this particular computer see:

    Solved Repeated Install Failure of Windows 10 on Dell 660s 0xC1900101 0x30017 - Windows 10 Forums

    That little effort explains one reason W10 has given me a bad impression and, I must admit, a bad attitude. My imaginary dog has bruises all over his imaginary backside.

    But the problem of not being able to bring up a right click menu when right clicking on the Apps or when having that opened up and still not being able to is NORMAL for 10!.......

    Then I must have installed W10.05 because I could right click on any item in the "All Apps" menu and select Pin to Start Menu, Pin to Task Bar, Open File Location, and in some cases Uninstall. I believe there might have been 5 options on some items. But since I can't get them to come up now I can't verify that.

    When browsing to a program folder and right clicking on the "exe" file that starts it up that should immediately see a right click menu however with the option to pin to either or both the task bar and Start menu's tile section!


    One use of the right-click and trip to the File Location is that the shortcut to the .exe lives there and you can rename the shortcut to "rearrange" the poorly thought-out menu structure. I have done it, until they stopped working yesterday.

    Also see my post about the icons on the Start Menu, including the "All Apps" menu disappearing from the buttons here:

    User-installed Application Icons on Start Menu went away. - Windows 10 Forums

    And like I said, this is a clean install. Something really strange is going on. There was also a case of the background picture disappearing. I got a response giving me the solution to getting it back, but why it went away still puzzles me.
    We sure agree on the fact that a clean install is a good install, but in my case I have so many applications that it takes me an average of 12 hours to install them all. I have two other computers on which the upgrade from W7 went smooth-as-silk but unfortunately I have already reverted those to W7 until I can thoroughly shake out the system to see if it is going to be a step up from W7. So I have spent 5 or 6 days on this single machine after finding out how to get around the W10 installation. I have been digging, setting, installing, and grumbling. Not a happy start to the relationship.

    Thanks for the reply. I may decide to restore one of the other computers to W10, since I do have disk images. If I do, I will post a picture of how the menu appears with a right-click. The problem is that it is a 2 hour process to restore, then another 2 hours to put it back at W7. I may do it tonight.
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  4. Posts : 104
    Windows 10
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    These two pictures show the menu item with the cursor resting on it, and with a right-click. Note that the color changes as if it wants to do something, but the choices of actions are not displayed. I will try to restore and get pictures later with the prompts showing. (Using coffee can for 1/2 second exposures, so sorry for the poor quality.)
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails "All Apps" Menu Items Do Not Respond to Right-click-p8190027.jpg   "All Apps" Menu Items Do Not Respond to Right-click-p8190026.jpg  
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  5. Posts : 104
    Windows 10
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    I restored one of my other computers to W10. Here is how the right-click is supposed to respond.

    (I inadvertently discovered that using the Open file location pick allows you to rename the shortcut and make minor changes to the menu sequence.)

    I have no idea what happened on the other computer to have corrupted the Start Menu so badly. I fear I also discovered another thing. The option to repair the OS in W10 actually removes all user-installed software and effectively does a clean install. I think that is entirely new behavior from any Windows version I have run in the past (and I go back to at least 3.1 and used every major version up to W7). That is certainly not an advantageous change.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails "All Apps" Menu Items Do Not Respond to Right-click-p8190030.jpg  
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  6. Posts : 3,367
    W10 Pro x64/W7 Ultimate x64 dual boot main - W11 Triple Boot Pending
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    If those are folders and not individual shortcuts you have to open them up first and right click on the executable tucked away on the inside. You can't pin complete folders to the Start tile area as some other things like Games that have to be opened up to view first. I think where you are having the problem. Here's a screen showing just what I mean when going to pin something for the sound card I have to open up the Creative folder in order to pin the Alchemy or Audio mixer.

    "All Apps" Menu Items Do Not Respond to Right-click-pinning-start.jpg
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  7. Posts : 104
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    Night Hawk said:
    If those are folders and not individual shortcuts you have to open them up first and right click on the executable tucked away on the inside. You can't pin complete folders to the Start tile area as some other things like Games that have to be opened up to view first.

    I'm not trying to do that. I think you have somehow missed the idea of my distress. I can't get the right-click to show the menu picks to do anything. It worked, it stopped working, and I can't find any way to fix it short of a reinstall. And this was a clean install to begin with.

    I think where you are having the problem. Here's a screen showing just what I mean when going to pin something for the sound card I have to open up the Creative folder in order to pin the Alchemy or Audio mixer.

    "All Apps" Menu Items Do Not Respond to Right-click-pinning-start.jpg
    The second sample picture in post 4 shows that all that happens with a right-click is that the background color changes. It is a subtle change in color so you may have missed it. No list of options appears. And what was right clicked is a link to an executable, not a folder. The picture in post 5 is from another computer which works properly. And it is a link to an executable as well. I have two upgrades which work properly, and one which has caused all sort of problems. This is only one of the problems.
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  8. Posts : 3,367
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    Well that gets us right back to the first and foremost solution you have open to see a clean install of 10 replace the problematic upgrade on that particular machine since the system registry was never complete. That's where this type of problem would eminate from not seeing every default reg value created during the upgrade as it should have been and a common problem seen with upgrade installs in general.

    Now note this as well that even at times when performing a fresh clean install problems like this can come up. But they are far less likely to be seen since you are also bringing in crud from the previous version that has been lingering around that might be a concern later. I don't have a list of the registry values that effect that type of problem while other OS tweaks like restoring the Windows Photo Viewer are available.

    This is either solved by a clean install or a second upgrade to repair type installation which is at best a temp solution when things aren't working and you need time to back things up before tossing the present mess! With the other two machines there you were fortunate enough to have seen good working upgrades come out of it while this one is "Buggy"! and other problems will likely soon come up on you and why the advice here is to plan a clean install.

    You don't have to reformat the drive entirely unless you prefer to start off again with everything fresh. In fact on older systems I often used to delete the entire primary to avoid any system partition information type errors in years past after an existing installation got too buggy and had been on for a long time. Many will simply reformat and not repartition a drive to save time and effort while that was simply one more optional step taken to insure desired results.

    You can try right clicking on the Start button and scrolling down to the "run" option to type in "sfc /scannow" being the command for the System File Checker. But if this is as I suspect a registry glitch and not any missing or corrupted system files that won't do much for you. The problem there seems to be found in the registry itself. It's now going to be your call there however on whether or not you try an upgrade to repair or go for a full clean install of everything.
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  9. Posts : 104
    Windows 10
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    Could only stand the highly-touted "Return of the Start Menu" so long. Installed Classic Shell.
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  10. Posts : 3,367
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    "All Apps" Menu Items Do Not Respond to Right-click-w10-start-menu-expanded-after-tile-shrink.jpg

    The one thing I can't out figure is why the All Apps is located way down at the bottom "UNDERNEATH" no less the Power shutdown options! You no longer see a button you can custom set for shutdown, restart, sleep, or logoff when hitting the button without otherwise bringing out the options list. Here I still have 7 set to restart for fast restarts when either new updates go on or rebooting into the other OS which now happens to be 10.

    As far the need for any 3rd party crap... No Thanks! I put up with enough of that when first taking a look at 8 and Metrro-mares! 8.1 allowed you to boot direct to the desktop while 10 has gotten smart again You just have to work with the new look of someone's brain(fart) storm to get it set up right!

    What helps a whole lot is being able to shrink those dog geesh freakin tiles down in size so you don't have Metro in you face! Then you can pin things there you may not want on the task bar or new jump list type tool bar you add onto that.
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