Disk Defragmenter app for spinning Disk?

TairikuOkami · 17 Jan 2020

jedikeeper said:

I do not trust Wise Disk Cleaner, I stop using it since I report a False Positive but for the AV Vendor is a False alarm, something was wrong in that version (10.1.9.768), please search at Virus Total: SHA-256 fdb759928acccc7194e5d9208916b34af4e364f034776670f2c9f00c139c28e4

Wise, CCleaner, Privazer, they all fall into the category PUP/PUA - potentially unwanted application.
Some create a task to bypass UAC, not to mention the pexec, it all could trigger the detection.

Anyway, I do not see anything wrong with that particular version. SSD detection is also standard these days.

jimbo45 · 17 Jan 2020

TairikuOkami said:

Wise, CCleaner, Privazer, they all fall into the category PUP/PUA - potentially unwanted application.
Some create a task to bypass UAC, not to mention the pexec, it all could trigger the detection.

Anyway, I do not see anything wrong with that particular version.

Forget all that rubbish --YOU DON'T NEED THEM !!!
If you want to check what's on your HDD's use something like treesize and do it manually.

Cheers
jimbo

eLPuSHeR · 17 Jan 2020

I tested Glary Utilities' defrag program and it is too simple. It doesn't perform gap fill optimization.

camelia · 17 Jan 2020

TairikuOkami said:

Wise, CCleaner, Privazer, they all fall into the category PUP/PUA - potentially unwanted application.
Some create a task to bypass UAC, not to mention the pexec, it all could trigger the detection.

Anyway, I do not see anything wrong with that particular version. SSD detection is also standard these days.

CC latest
Release Notes
v5.63.7540 (15 Oct 2019)
Latest CCleaner Version Released
CC has not been updated for close to 3 months
Latest CCleaner Version Released

Nop, they all not fall into the category PUP/PUA

Please search at Virus Total: CCleaner Slim v5.63.7540
SHA-256 d932279091feb1256cfb8d60ed29096895c8fb4f5553e1dc20c1cebf8a49352d

PrivaZer current

PrivaZer v3.0.86
SHA-256 cbc7261f2aab7899e9cde7f69ad35f247089a28911985d15320a06e8f5f4c922

TairikuOkami · 17 Jan 2020

jedikeeper said:

Nop, they all not fall into the category PUP/PUA

Cleaners generally fall into that category, the detection depends on the vendor's personal choice.
For example Malwarebytes includes IoBit and Auslogics, sometimes CCleaner, based on the mood.

https://www.malwarebytes.com/pup

RolandJS · 17 Jan 2020

We should not have kittens over these pups; I have used Wise Disk Cleaner, albeit "rifle not shotgun" approach, never had a problem, since Windows for Workgroups 3.11, and still use it. averaging once quarterly, on my Windows 7 Pro.

camelia · 17 Jan 2020

RolandJS said:

We should not have kittens over these pups; I have used Wise Disk Cleaner, albeit "rifle not shotgun" approach, never had a problem, since Windows for Workgroups 3.11, and still use it. averaging once quarterly, on my Windows 7 Pro.

Maybe I should give WDC another try...

Which Wise Disk Cleaner version do you have installed and which version is the current?

TairikuOkami · 17 Jan 2020

Unfortunately with cleaners, there is only so much they can clean, so the new versions are mostly bug fixes.

WiseCleaner Release Logs - New changes of all WiseCleaner Products

RolandJS · 17 Jan 2020

TO's on the money; jedikeeper, yodaTheMan -- I have WDC (2-3 updates behind) in need of updating, I will do so this weekend. I'm replacing a slowly-failing HDD after making a full image of en toto HDD, will update afterwards.

jimbo45 · 17 Jan 2020

Hi folks
@TairikuOkami

@RolandJS

Again WHY BOTHER -- does it actually buy you anything -- let's see some stats "Chapter and Verse please with some screen shots of I/O rates BEFORE and AFTER".

I still believe most of you don't have an inkling of a clue how I/O, cache utilisation, overlap of I/O and CPU processes and scratch / paging systems work these days otherwise you wouldn't be wasting energy on this sort of stuff.

Not trying to be nasty here --BUT LEARN something --we are using OS's and Disk hardware from 2018's onwards --not 1999.

Cheers
jimbo