Excellent cookie cleaner sought (not Ccleaner) - ideas?

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  1. Posts : 42,984
    Win 10 Pro (22H2) (2nd PC is 22H2)
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    Excellent cookie cleaner sought (not Ccleaner) - ideas?


    Hi, I need a program that comprehensively lists cookies and allows certain ones to be kept (i.e. not deleted).

    Ccleaner lists cookies, and you can choose to search and drag them to a 'keep' list. But Ccleaner only lists a few cookies- when I use Firefox to view its cookies, it lists many many more.

    Ideally a new cleaning program would do what Ccleaner does, but handle cookies much better, and list all of them. I don't need a registry cleaner though.

    What's the problem?
    Changes in UK bank security mean that banks are using more cookies to record devices as 'trusted'. Soon this will mean receiving a code e.g. by text so as to 'trust' the PC being use.

    Ccleaner does not list the latest cookie used as one to be potentially kept, so it deletes it. Thus next time I log in to that bank, I get 3 extra prompts to respond to to trust my device again.

    (Yes.. you're ahead of me... why are the banks using transient data to do this? I suppose 'cos it's an easy option... and oh, that's the browser on that PC you're trusting- use a different browser and your PC isn't trusted again... ).

    If you know of a cleaning program that's much better than Ccleaner at listing cookies..please let me know.. thanks!
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  2. Posts : 14,046
    Windows 11 Pro X64 22H2 22621.1848
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    I don't have that problem, I never clear cookies (or history).

    Sort list here (includes CCLeaner): 6 best cookie cleaner software for your Windows 10 PC
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  3. Posts : 31,651
    10 Home x64 (22H2) (10 Pro on 2nd pc)
       #3

    dalchina said:
    Ccleaner lists cookies, and you can choose to search and drag them to a 'keep' list. But Ccleaner only lists a few cookies- when I use Firefox to view its cookies, it lists many many more.
    CCleaner list all domains that the cookies are for, but there will only be on entry for multiple cookies that are for the same domain. Firefox list all individual cookies, which may account for the apparent discrepancy.


    When I get a problem site like your bank I first clean cookies with CCleaner, open Firefox and visit ONLY that site, then open CCleaner again. It's easier then to see which new domain names need to be added to the list of cookies to keep. Note also that you can use wildcards in CCleaner's whitelist, like: *.mybank.co.uk
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  4. Posts : 5,478
    2004
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    dalchina said:
    What's the problem?
    Changes in UK bank security mean that banks are using more cookies to record devices as 'trusted'. Soon this will mean receiving a code e.g. by text so as to 'trust' the PC being use.
    This is a new 2FA requirement and UK banks will send a SMS to your registered phone under certain conditions (first log on, transaction download, new payment recipient, changing password etc).

    I can't get a SMS from my UK bank to my French mobile number (wrong number of digits) so gave a friends UK mobile and they will forward the SMS code if the need arises.

    An annoying change for those with UK bank accounts and especially those also without UK mobiles but nothing to do with cookies - it happens if you use your phone banking app or internet via phone or PC - just depends what you want to do.
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  5. Posts : 7,254
    Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
       #5

    For cookie cleaning, SuperAntiSpyware does a good job. Although its more for malicious ones.
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  6. Posts : 6,849
    22H2 64 Bit Pro
       #6

    You could try what I use:

    Microsoft Edge Insider preview builds are now ready for you to try

    I keep using HD Cleaner 1.245 rather than the latest version though. You could get that here:

    h**ps://www.filerobin.com/cleaning-and-tweaking/hdcleaner-1-245/

    You can copy Ccleaner rules or add winapp2.ini if you want to.

    See: HDCleaner - CCleaner alternative

    Disable update checks in options.
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  7. Posts : 6,849
    22H2 64 Bit Pro
       #7

    Or you could use this extension:

    Click&Clean | Add-on for Firefox

    Then whitelist cookies that you want to keep. Your bank might set session cookies that automatically expire though.
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  8. Posts : 42,984
    Win 10 Pro (22H2) (2nd PC is 22H2)
    Thread Starter
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    lx07 said:
    This is a new 2FA requirement and UK banks will send a SMS to your registered phone under certain conditions (first log on, transaction download, new payment recipient, changing password etc).

    I can't get a SMS from my UK bank to my French mobile number (wrong number of digits) so gave a friends UK mobile and they will forward the SMS code if the need arises.

    An annoying change for those with UK bank accounts and especially those also without UK mobiles but nothing to do with cookies - it happens if you use your phone banking app or internet via phone or PC - just depends what you want to do.
    Hi, it is to do with cookies, at least in some cases. I had an interesting conversation with a very informed guy high up in the tech dept in Santander. In their initial implementation of this additional 'trusted device' 2 factor verification, the way the device will be recorded as 'trusted' is by setting a cookie.

    Naturally this makes this browser dependent too, not device dependent. Later they hope to do this by a different, less fragile means.

    For a couple of years Santander has used a cookie to record a PC as a 'familiar' device. If that cookie is not present, an additional security challenge is presented.

    The Bank of Scotland has started offering people the ability to confirm their device is trusted now, simply by responding to a couple of prompts after logging in.

    The text based verification is to start in a month or so.

    Clearing cookies affect both Santander and the BoS.

    I can't get a SMS from my UK bank to my French mobile number (wrong number of digits) so gave a friends UK mobile and they will forward the SMS code if the need arises.
    That's a good one. And yes, for some time already some banks have sent OTP's to mobile phones when making certain changes or payments on line. The additional check coming is when logging in, or using cards on line. The latter is already happening.

    In a couple of cases there is an option to receive a code audibly to a registered land line.
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  9. Posts : 42,984
    Win 10 Pro (22H2) (2nd PC is 22H2)
    Thread Starter
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    Bree said:
    When I get a problem site like your bank I first clean cookies with CCleaner, open Firefox and visit ONLY that site, then open CCleaner again. It's easier then to see which new domain names need to be added to the list of cookies to keep. Note also that you can use wildcards in CCleaner's whitelist, like: *.mybank.co.uk
    Thanks, didn't know * was possible in Keep. What I did find was that with Cleaner 'Keeping' several Bank of Scotland cookies, then responding to prompts to record the BoS as trusted, no additional cookies were listed by Ccleaner after refreshing it or relaunching it.
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  10. Posts : 6,849
    22H2 64 Bit Pro
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    Once I had a problem with cookies not being deleted in Ccleaner. A complete uninstall including leftovers followed by a reboot then a fresh install of Ccleaner fixed the problem. You could try that.
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