Windows 10: Gimp Update out

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       29 Apr 2018 #21

    I'll have wait for the add-on to get ported, otherwise it is useless to me. @Hopachi (Horace) told me he has been working on porting some, so the waiting beginsClick image for larger version. 

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  2.    29 Apr 2018 #22

    And, unlike other programs with a unique UI, GIMP will open in Sets...

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       29 Apr 2018 #23

    One thing that I always seem to see with Gimp is they spend a long time putting in loads of new features, but don't seem to put the same effort into getting the Help and instructions for the new features, (for offline use especially), available at the same time, they advertise the option on the main download page to the availability of the offline help in a good number of languages but not mentioning that these are the ones for the last version not the new ones .

    A side effect of this is when installing the Application, followed by the "offline" Help files it throws an error message that the Application is not present in the folder it's installing into. This is of course due to the fact that the Help file is one or more revisions behind the actual application, and is looking for the "old" application.

    This is not a good way to reassure new users, so something should be added to the instructions or the actual error message to highlight the actual "Fault" detail,

    Not everyone has fast, free, fibre or Broadband, so are not able to use online help
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       29 Apr 2018 #24

    Barman58 said: View Post
    One thing that I always seem to see with Gimp is they spend a long time putting in loads of new features, but don't seem to put the same effort into getting the Help and instructions for the new features, (for offline use especially), available at the same time, they advertise the option on the main download page to the availability of the offline help in a good number of languages but not mentioning that these are the ones for the last version not the new ones .

    A side effect of this is when installing the Application, followed by the "offline" Help files it throws an error message that the Application is not present in the folder it's installing into. This is of course due to the fact that the Help file is one or more revisions behind the actual application, and is looking for the "old" application.

    This is not a good way to reassure new users, so something should be added to the instructions or the actual error message to highlight the actual "Fault" detail,

    Not everyone has fast, free, fibre or Broadband, so are not able to use online help
    Agreed!
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       29 Apr 2018 #25

    All these I "need" ported(except the Gimp installer of course)
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       29 Apr 2018 #26

    One thing that is a total show stopper for me is the lack of support for the Raw files I use exclusively. I use ARW format from Sony DSLRs which I immediately convert to Digital Negative [.DNG] files for storage and processing.

    DNG is an public domain format and is actually used in some DSLR's as their internal format so Gimp should really look at supporting it

    I've just downloaded the Windows Port of Darktable [at last they are thinking about the other 90%+ of computer users], and will take a look

    Let's put things straight - as far as I can see there are no real alternatives to the combination of Lightroom and Photoshop I use at present, I pay around $10 a month which is acceptable for me, As I do not actually use Photoshop that often I may look to also try setting up a workflow for users who use lightroom and want to do detailed pixel editing from lightroom in Gimp, [should be possible by use of a Tiff File rather that Adobe standards
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  7. Posts : 21,238
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       29 Apr 2018 #27

    The problem with Gimp is the add-ons, even ones often downloaded, are created and posted by individuals who do it on their free time, and when something happens in "real" life, or they loose interest in the project, or GIMPs coding has changed where it's difficult to port, it gets dropped or lost.

    Of course companies like Adobe have paid teams, and they can always get other/better coders, that this is a job for.

    But...
    I really like the GIMP UI:)
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  8. Posts : 2,707
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       29 Apr 2018 #28

    I've been playing

    Had an unprocessed DNG image and set-up Gimp as an external editor in Lightroom, [just using a standard sRGB colour palette and an uncompressed Tiff 8 Bit output file], to get the file into Gimp 2.10 and Voila ...

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    Will need to do some more research [Playing] to see what sort of Bit depths and Colour Schemes Gimp can support but looks like it could be an option for some with lightroom standalone to do pixel edits
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       01 May 2018 #29

    Considering the fact that GIMP only has around 6 developers / programmers that code in their free time, it's a miracle it's that good.
    Yes it's a very good program.

    I see the comparison with Photoshop all the time. Pretty logic considering the practical use. But what would Photoshop be with only 6 programmers that develop it in their spare time?

    Why the GIMP Team Obviously Hates You - YouTube
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       01 May 2018 #30

    Cliff S said: View Post
    I'll have wait for the add-on to get ported, otherwise it is useless to me. @Hopachi (Horace) told me he has been working on porting some, so the waiting beginsClick image for larger version. 

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    @Cliff S We'll have to keep 2.8 around for the time being. Both versions can be installed in parallel. But no simultaneous runtime.

    I'm new to the porting stuff. Also done in my spare time. I begin small, that is: small plugins.So far I only managed to port the Iconify plugin: also getting rid of the Vista icon logic: Win10 only has 32-bit image layers; no 8-bit or 4-bit ones.

    This one works fine; see the Win10 icon layer-logic:
    We have 40x40 and 20x20 among other known sizes and only 32-bit images for 32-bit resolutions.
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