Windows 10: How can I add programs to the All Apps start menu list?

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  1. Posts : 3,506
    Win_8.1-Pro, Win_10.1607-Pro, Mint_17.3
       04 Aug 2015 #11

    Try removing all of the shortcuts to DotA 2 from both
    All users Start menu (%AllUsersProfile%\....\Start menu) folder
    and
    Your Start menu (%AppData%\....\Start menu) folder

    Create a new folder in either Start menu folder, but create it in the Programs subFolder - for the sake of this discussion, I'll call it GTapps
    Find the exe for DotA 2, right click it and select Create shortcut
    The shortcut might be created on your desktop.

    Open Start menu\Programs\GTapps (this is the folder you created before)
    Drag the DotA 2 shortcut you created to the GTapps folder

    You should have a GTapps folder in the Start list and DotA 2 should be in that folder. You can pin it to start or the taskbar if you wish.

    The new Start has timestamps, so things have to be new to be recognized, moving things doesn't update the stamp. That's why I asked you to remove the other references to DotA 2 that you tried to get to work before. There is a Powershell that forces Windows to look again, but I can never locate it. It's just easier to create a new shorcut and put it in Start.
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  2.    04 Aug 2015 #12

    Slartybart said: View Post
    Try removing all of the shortcuts to DotA 2 from both
    All users Start menu (%AllUsersProfile%\....\Start menu) folder
    and
    Your Start menu (%AppData%\....\Start menu) folder

    Create a new folder in either Start menu folder, but create it in the Programs subFolder - for the sake of this discussion, I'll call it GTapps
    Find the exe for DotA 2, right click it and select Create shortcut
    The shortcut might be created on your desktop.

    Open Start menu\Programs\GTapps (this is the folder you created before)
    Drag the DotA 2 shortcut you created to the GTapps folder

    You should have a GTapps folder in the Start list and DotA 2 should be in that folder. You can pin it to start or the taskbar if you wish.

    The new Start has timestamps, so things have to be new to be recognized, moving things doesn't update the stamp. That's why I asked you to remove the other references to DotA 2 that you tried to get to work before. There is a Powershell that forces Windows to look again, but I can never locate it. It's just easier to create a new shorcut and put it in Start.
    I was unable to get it to recognize a new folder even after resetting my computer, I can however add it to already created folders on the list. Its a work around that will work as a temporary fix, but I would prefer a permanent one. Is there any way to create a new folder/add them just as the program?

    Tried it with another program, does not work. Only reason I think the DotA 2 link worked is because it is in a subfolder for steam (the one folder I could get it to show up in) so I still can't get other programs that aren't in subfolders up.

    Tried it with another program from a different subfolder and it didn't work. Not sure why the DotA 2 link even worked now.
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  3. Posts : 3,506
    Win_8.1-Pro, Win_10.1607-Pro, Mint_17.3
       05 Aug 2015 #13

    Please elaborate on I was unable to get it to recognize a new folder

    Do you mean
    the folder did not appear in the Start list
    - or -
    you could not create the folder

    I add folders and shortcuts to the Start menu regularly. Once I figured out the time stamp thing (a new object shows up, a copied object might show up).

    Please follow these steps exactly and post any problems you run into when they happen.

    1. Open Control Panel (View by: Small icons)
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    2. Right click Indexing Options in Control Panel
      Select Create shortcut
      answer Yes when the dialog window tells you that the shortcut cannot be created here ....
      There should now be an Indexing Options shortcut on your Desktop

    3. Launch File Explorer
      Navigate to C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs
      Create a new folder named 10test
      Open the new 10test folder in File Explorer
      Drag the Indexing Options shortcut on your Desktop to the new 10test folder

    4. Open Start - the 10test folder should be at the top of the list and the Indexing Options shortcut is inside that folder.


    That is the process I use.

    There were issues with Start in some of the earlier Preview builds, but I haven't seen those in the Retail release.

    If I recall, pinning something from the list to Start seemed to wake up the process. Try that if you don't see the 10test folder in the menu list.

    That's about all I can think of.
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  4.    05 Aug 2015 #14

    Slartybart said: View Post
    Please elaborate on I was unable to get it to recognize a new folder

    Do you mean
    the folder did not appear in the Start list
    - or -
    you could not create the folder

    I add folders and shortcuts to the Start menu regularly. Once I figured out the time stamp thing (a new object shows up, a copied object might show up).

    Please follow these steps exactly and post any problems you run into when they happen.

    1. Open Control Panel (View by: Small icons)
      Click image for larger version. 

Name:	cpSmallIcons.png 
Views:	209 
Size:	3.3 KB 
ID:	28532
    2. Right click Indexing Options in Control Panel
      Select Create shortcut
      answer Yes when the dialog window tells you that the shortcut cannot be created here ....
      There should now be an Indexing Options shortcut on your Desktop
    3. Launch File Explorer
      Navigate to C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs
      Create a new folder named 10test
      Open the new 10test folder in File Explorer
      Drag the Indexing Options shortcut on your Desktop to the new 10test folder
    4. Open Start - the 10test folder should be at the top of the list and the Indexing Options shortcut is inside that folder.


    That is the process I use.

    There were issues with Start in some of the earlier Preview builds, but I haven't seen those in the Retail release.

    If I recall, pinning something from the list to Start seemed to wake up the process. Try that if you don't see the 10test folder in the menu list.

    That's about all I can think of.
    Ok that got the folder to show up in all apps, and the indexing options to shop up, however other programs are not showing up in that folder.



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  5.    05 Aug 2015 #15

    How do you get your start menu looking like that? Utility, Drives etc etc?
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  6.    05 Aug 2015 #16

    MortTheBeast said: View Post
    How do you get your start menu looking like that? Utility, Drives etc etc?
    You can rename the spacers by clicking the space to the left of the == when you create a new tile.

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  7. Posts : 3,506
    Win_8.1-Pro, Win_10.1607-Pro, Mint_17.3
       05 Aug 2015 #17

    I don't know at this point ... the two times (DotA 2 and Indexing Options) you created new shortcuts outside of Start, they worked.

    Try refreshing Explorer : explorer.exe Process - Restart in Windows 10 - Windows 10 Forums


    Do the other shortcuts show up at all on the list (alphabetical makes it easy to find), just not in the 10 test folder you created?

    The thing to keep in mind is that Start keeps track of items (where they are, what the names are).
    For the best and easiest results building a folder in Start:
    create new shortcuts from the .exe
    give the new shortcut a new name
    don't try to fool Start with two shortcuts to the same program, that won't wok.

    When you have the shortcuts in a folder - move the folder to Start.
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  8.    05 Aug 2015 #18

    Slartybart said: View Post
    I don't know at this point ... the two times (DotA 2 and Indexing Options) you created new shortcuts outside of Start, they worked.

    Try refreshing Explorer : explorer.exe Process - Restart in Windows 10 - Windows 10 Forums


    Do the other shortcuts show up at all on the list (alphabetical makes it easy to find), just not in the 10 test folder you created?

    The thing to keep in mind is that Start keeps track of items (where they are, what the names are).
    For the best and easiest results building a folder in Start:
    create new shortcuts from the .exe
    give the new shortcut a new name
    don't try to fool Start with two shortcuts to the same program, that won't wok.

    When you have the shortcuts in a folder - move the folder to Start.
    I have been working through this with the Microsoft support community and the Microsoft technical support as well. I have been abLe to reproduce the inability to add programs. It seems that any program that I have not previously pinned as a metro tile will work fine and be added to the all apps list but any program added as a metro anytime in the past is again added as a metro tile. It's repeatable with any file type.

    It looks like what I need to find is the registry files that keep track of metro shortcuts and delete them. Tier 1 tech support was just baffled when I talked to them so I have to wait till Friday to talk to tier 2. The community support hasn't been any help after this realization either.

    Any ways I can't test out any new solutions till tonight my power just went out so I am unable to access my desktop.

    The file location in Programs Data has not worked at all for these programs as well I've had to use the folder in Appdata. Can't remember the exact file location but it can be accessed by opening Run and running "shell:programs"
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  9.    05 Aug 2015 #19

    Got my power back and while it was out I thought of a temporary solution till we can figure out what is wrong. I made a batch file that ran the exe I was trying to pin, made a shortcut to the .bat then added that shortcut. Its not perfect, but it works till we can figure this out.
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  10.    05 Aug 2015 #20

    I made this for the windows community support forums and figured I might as well link it here as well. This is how I can reproduce the issue.
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